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Old 07-08-2011, 03:44 PM #1
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Believe me, Cowell uses his money to ensure the likes of this tat sells enough to make no1.
There are watchdogs in place to check for foul play with record sales. Simon is not stupid enough to risk his rep and standing in the industry by fixing sales. If thats what you mean.

Indeed many XF acts have flopped. I think Cowell is a realist and just lets them sink or swim by themselves. He can't keep covering their arses. Plus he always has new talent lined up constantly.

And Chers record is very commercial and catchy. You may not rate it but its really not hard to see why its a hit. Indeed it actually sounds like several other hits combined.
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I like JLS but am rooting for Cher.

Zippy spot on, most tracks in the charts nowadays are sampling music that was out ages ago, or from a different generation.

If Cher gets the #1 meltdown from some of her critics, better hide and Gamu will be on the rampage.
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There are watchdogs in place to check for foul play with record sales. Simon is not stupid enough to risk his rep and standing in the industry by fixing sales. If thats what you mean.

Indeed many XF acts have flopped. I think Cowell is a realist and just lets them sink or swim by themselves. He can't keep covering their arses. Plus he always has new talent lined up constantly.

And Chers record is very commercial and catchy. You may not rate it but its really not hard to see why its a hit. Indeed it actually sounds like several other hits combined.
Wrong! Cowell is trying to ruin Leonas Career in many ways/ doesn't know what hes doing
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Wrong! Cowell is trying to ruin Leonas Career in many ways/ doesn't know what hes doing
And how is he doing that?

be specific. He doesn't control her image or how much radio play she gets. Seems to me she is trying to do her own thing and it just ain't working.

TBH she seems to have lost herself and gone a bit LA. Thats not who she is and its not why her fans liked her in the first place.

She had major success under Cowells support.
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And how is he doing that?

be specific. He doesn't control her image or how much radio play she gets. Seems to me she is trying to do her own thing and it just ain't working.

TBH she seems to have lost herself and gone a bit LA. Thats not who she is and its not why her fans liked her in the first place.

She had major success under Cowells support.
Err.. He was the one that made her work with Sandy Vee & agreed to steal a track, collide which Simon knew was not legal, they needed simons consent so i have been specific

Also the release system of the company is dreadfull, like a single every 5 months, and release I will Be over Run over in America when Run was already at #84 in their charts & had success around all of Europe & Germany, and then I Will Be flopped. He is dreadfull, that isn't Leonas decision its his.

Also the lack of info.

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Err.. He was the one that made her work with Sandy Vee & agreed to steal a track, collide which Simon knew was not legal, they needed simons consent so i have been specific

Also the release system of the company is dreadfull, like a single every 5 months, and release I will Be over Run over in America when Run was already at #84 in their charts & had success around all of Europe & Germany, and then I Will Be flopped. He is dreadfull, that isn't Leonas decision its his.

Also the lack of info.
Simon is first and foremost a businessman. He doesnt make decisions to deliberately sabotage his own acts! That would be psycho not Syco.

You're implying he deliberately chose a song that would drag him to court?

as for song choices and release dates, there is no exact science. Sometimes you go with a certain song and it just doesnt go down with the public. Again, record companies do not deliberately fck up their own acts.
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Simon is first and foremost a businessman. He doesnt make decisions to deliberately sabotage his own acts! That would be psycho not Syco.

You're implying he deliberately chose a song that would drag him to court?

as for song choices and release dates, there is no exact science. Sometimes you go with a certain song and it just doesnt go down with the public. Again, record companies do not deliberately fck up their own acts.
How do you describe him giving Joe Narnia,but gives Olly songs that gives him top 5 finishes in the charts? MeMyselfAndI is right that Simon does delibrately **** up his own acts.
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How do you describe him giving Joe Narnia,but gives Olly songs that gives him top 5 finishes in the charts? MeMyselfAndI is right that Simon does delibrately **** up his own acts.
That film was a huge worldwide hit taking nearly $430mill. So not quite sure why you see being given a big song on it as sabotage.

Olly has top 5 hits because the public probably just relate to him more. Simon can't force who the public take to. They both had huge publicity and the record buyers made their choice.
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