[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by Suze

You do that, I am entitled to my opinions on any of the housemates whether I watch the show or not

That's exactly the same narrow-minded attitude that got BB killed in the first place. It's always had its haters who never undertood the appeal of the show even though they hadn't given it a chance and then when the race row hit the same people were too quick to judge when they didn't see the evidence for themselves and draw their own conclusions. They only jumped on the bandwagon to join in on condeming the show they already disliked

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

That's exactly the same narrow-minded attitude that got BB killed in the first place. It's always had its haters who never undertood the appeal of the show even though they hadn't given it a chance and then when the race row hit the same people were too quick to judge when they didn't see the evidence for themselves and draw their own conclusions. They only jumped on the bandwagon to join in on condeming the show they already disliked

NO ONE could have missed the point when they saw that disaster that was the 3 bigots ganging up on Shilpa Shetty led by the big mouthed Botox lipped gang leader.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by fingers

NO ONE could have missed the point when they saw that disaster that was the 3 bigots ganging up on Shilpa Shetty led by the big mouthed Botox lipped gang leader.

It was a class divide between Jade and Shilpa rather than a race one despite the odd comment from Jade and it was actually Danielle and Jo that were more racist than her. Jade took more brunt from it because A) she was the one who confronted Shilpa about the Oxo cube thus implying she was 'gang leader' whilst the 2 real racists simply sat and laughed because they didn't have the balls to confront Shilpa themselves, and B) Jade was BB's most successful contestant and so the haters saw her as a personification of BB, the ultimate HM, and the ensuing success. Of course she wasn't completely innocent, that she did get carried away and that her danger was that she thought she was safe but she was the perfect target for ANYONE who already had a low opinion of the show at that point

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

It was a class divide between Jade and Shilpa rather than a race one despite the odd comment from Jade and it was actually Danielle and Jo that were more racist than her. Jade took more brunt from it because A) she was the one who confronted Shilpa about the Oxo cube thus implying she was 'gang leader' whilst the 2 real racists simply sat and laughed because they didn't have the balls to confront Shilpa themselves, and B) Jade was BB's most successful contestant and so the haters saw her as a personification of BB, the ultimate HM, and the ensuing success. Of course she wasn't completely innocent, that she did get carried away and that her danger was that she thought she was safe but she was the perfect target for ANYONE who already had a low opinion of the show at that point

And jack got away scot-free after calling shilpa a p*ki too.

No blame at all went to him

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And jack got away scot-free after calling shilpa a p*ki too.

No blame at all went to him

No blame either when he ejaculated on Ms Goody's calf.

[12bigbrother12]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And jack got away scot-free after calling shilpa a p*ki too.

No blame at all went to him

He called her a "******", not a "p**i".

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by 12bigbrother12

He called her a "******", not a "p**i".

he called her a p**i and was called into the diary room and reprimanded for it

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

It was a class divide between Jade and Shilpa rather than a race one despite the odd comment from Jade and it was actually Danielle and Jo that were more racist than her. Jade took more brunt from it because A) she was the one who confronted Shilpa about the Oxo cube thus implying she was 'gang leader' whilst the 2 real racists simply sat and laughed because they didn't have the balls to confront Shilpa themselves, and B) Jade was BB's most successful contestant and so the haters saw her as a personification of BB, the ultimate HM, and the ensuing success. Of course she wasn't completely innocent, that she did get carried away and that her danger was that she thought she was safe but she was the perfect target for ANYONE who already had a low opinion of the show at that point

Quite a good defence, the two in the background WERE worse than Ms Goody but she thought that she WAS Big Brother even before Marcus got the title.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And jack got away scot-free after calling shilpa a p*ki too.

No blame at all went to him

Exactly. And because he and Jackiey entered as 'Jade's Family' Jade was again seen as their 'leader' when in actuality Jack, Jo and Danielle were the worst of the bunch, Jackiey was just foolish and Jade was the easiest to single out because of her associations with all of the rest, for confronting Shilpa head-on and because she was seen as the star of the show by the haters

Originally Posted by fingers

Quite a good defence, the two in the background WERE worse than Ms Goody but she thought that she WAS Big Brother even before Marcus got the title.

Jade wasn't perfect, she was indeed hot headed and at times smug (like her treatment of Sophie during BB3) but my initial point remains that it's this silly little attitude of people not having their own opinions that distorts the reality of what's actually there. Back in 2007 the haters, politicians and non-viewers were lead to believe it was indeed a race row lead by Jade when it was more complicated than that. And whilst nothign as major as the race row is taking place right here we have Suze openly stating they think they have a good grasp on the current series based on what they're reading from other people rather than viewing it and interpreting it for themself. They're not watching the show so therefore they can't challenge or honestly agree with what other forum members are discussing if they haven't been able to see it for themself and make their own assesments