[Stu]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

I won't even go there.

[Vicky.]

Many people disliked my fave band a few years back...busted(dont judge me ). They were a bit like jedward, hyper, annoying, young etc etc.

I never once accused anyone of being jealous of them. Just accepted that people have different tastes :/

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Stu

The last time we hosted it was in 1997 before the Celtic Tiger economy ever really took off so ... no?

They should enter Jedward into next years EV that should guarantee that you don't have to host the following year's.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fingers

They should enter Jedward into next years EV that should guarantee that you don't have to host the following year's.

Like we done this year?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Many people disliked my fave band a few years back...busted(dont judge me ). They were a bit like jedward, hyper, annoying, young etc etc.

I never once accused anyone of being jealous of them. Just accepted that people have different tastes :/

Hmmmm, a bit different though. Even though Busted were annoying they made quite good pop songs and at least weren't a product of X Factor

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Stu

Like we done this year?

oops, glad I didn't watch it now!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Hmmmm, a bit different though. Even though Busted were annoying they made quite good pop songs and at least weren't a product of X Factor

Still the same principle though. A lot of people had (IMO) irrational dislike for them. But obviously it would seem like it was for no reason...because I could see no reason to dislike them.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Still the same principle though. A lot of people had (IMO) irrational dislike for them. But obviously it would seem like it was for no reason...because I could see no reason to dislike them.

Well you're a girl, so it would seem irrational to you

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Oh really? The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we?

And yet there are plenty of celebrities with just as much money or more than Jedward who I do like and don't find annoying.

How do you explain that one?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well you're a girl, so it would seem irrational to you

I chose to take that comment to heart. How DARE you stereotype all girls in that horrid horrid manner

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Many people disliked my fave band a few years back...busted(dont judge me ).

I liked Busted!

at least they were a legitimate pop group.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I chose to take that comment to heart. How DARE you stereotype all girls in that horrid horrid manner

Not my fault if you can't handle the truth

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not my fault if you can't handle the truth

You're just jellus

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You're just jellus

I am actually jealous of Matt banging Emma

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I am actually jealous of Matt banging Emma

Im jealous of Emma banging Matt also.

Maybe we can sort this out so everyone wins

[InOne]

Off topic

Closing this.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zippy

thats a silly desperate point. I watch the show and therefore its hard to avoid them.

You really need to stop taking every word so literally. I dont literally jump up and look for something to do when they appear. I just browse my laptop or re-arrange my scatter cushions.

It seems all or most who disagree with you make silly points.I can also assure you I am not desperate in any way at all.

I don't though go on to any length like you do as to people I don't really like, the way you do as to who you say you hate watching and detest.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't though go on to any length like you do as to people I don't really like, the way you do as to who you say you hate watching and detest.

way too many extra words in that sentence.

and hate figures always get most attention on forums. Trust me, Id be happy to not speak of them again if theyd just piss off.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by MTVN

And yet there are plenty of celebrities with just as much money or more than Jedward who I do like and don't find annoying.

How do you explain that one?

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

I'm sure Mummy loves them - no pun intended!

[Marcus.]

can we go to the topic

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by fingers

I'm sure Mummy loves them

I'm sure she loves what they are earning - especially as she only gives them £20 a week pocket money from it!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Because you perceive them as having got something for nothing? I.e. plenty of dosh and plenty of teeny-adulation for what you regard as minimal or non-existent talent.

Just to be clear, I am only trying a little amateur psychology here - not to pîss anyone off.

I just feel there must be a reason why people not only don't like them, but go so far as to wish positive harm on what appear to be two quite decent harmless (if rather eccentric) individuals. That's all.

No not really, well I dont think they're particularly talented if that's what you mean but neither is Amy and I like her

And no I don't think there is any underlying, subconscious reason as to why I don't like them, I just.. don't. I find them irritating, I think they act far younger than they actually are, and they're having a lot of the show focus on them when I'd rather they gave more camera time to other housemates.

I really don't get why a lot of Jedward fans seemingly find it incomprehensible that anyone might actually dislike them. I'm sure there are some housemates in there who you don't like; you have your reasons for that and I have mine for not being keen on Jedward. Amateur psychology and accusations of jealousy really aren't needed.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I think he may well actually be their mummy judging by the way he defends them

Damn........... I've been sussed!

And I'm laughing all the way to the bank!

I'm sure she loves what they are earning - especially as she only gives them £20 a week pocket money from it!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I really don't get why a lot of Jedward fans seemingly find it incomprehensible that anyone might actually dislike them. I'm sure there are some housemates in there who you don't like; you gave your reasons for that and I have mine for not being keen on Jedward. Amateur psychology and accusations if jealousy really aren't needed.

100% agree with this.