[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

Awwwww poor baby

dude you baiting me now?
argue your point... what's stopping you?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ange7

dude you baiting me now?
argue your point... what's stopping you?

What is the point when you type things I never even brought up? Can't argue with a troll.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Shaun

-is thankful for being on a forum with Nettosuperstar and ange7-

some sense

saying that Islam was responsible for 9/11 is like saying Shintoism is responsible for Pearl Harbor. It's just using a national tragedy to sweep up hysteria in an attempt to tarnish an institution these people don't really understand.

cheers Shaun
Dateline ( current affairs show here in oz) did a story on this topic. Here's the link
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story...nd-Zero-Mosque
Some like you will who want to know ALL the info on what they are talking about will find it pretty useful. For others facts are like water off a ducks back. :P

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

What is the point when you type things I never even brought up? Can't argue with a troll.

"your an idiot" and "Awwwww poor baby" makes you the troll champ. mahahahahah!

[ange7]

back to "the nest" mate

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ange7

"your an idiot" and "Awwwww poor baby" makes you the troll champ. mahahahahah!

Not really, you lose an argument so you have to make stuff up. (=

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not really, you lose an argument so you have to make stuff up. (=

what did a I make up? Every one of your points got hit for six :P .... then you resorted to name calling lol

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ange7

what did a I make up? Every one of your points got hit for six :P .... then you resorted to name calling lol

You saw which bit I highlighted...

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

You saw which bit I highlighted...

yep ... and surrounding that was my argument for why it was true. Want to argue against it? We're all ears.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ange7

yep ... and surrounding that was my argument for why it was true. Want to argue against it? We're all ears.

Who is we?

And as usual your points are based on your own opinions, and nothing I've actually said.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

Who is we?

And as usual your points are based on your own opinions, and nothing I've actually said.

InOne
Killin' trolls with style

hmmmmmm hehe

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ange7

InOne
Killin' trolls with style

hmmmmmm hehe

You love it

[Chilltown]

Particular Muslims ARE to blame for the 9/11 incident as Islam was the motivation behind the attacks, so to build a Muslim Mosque less than 2 blocks away from where the attack was is kind of a selfish move.

Yeah, there's freedom of speech, etc. Freedom to protest. But I think it's just insensitive and in poor taste to let the structure be built right there. 9/11 in the USA is a day that will live in infamy. The protests against it aren't an act of bigotry or hate, it's a protest of uncomfort. A LOT of people are uncomfortable with, essentially, a building being built so close to where the Trade Centers were that symbolizes the motivation of the Terrorists. So a lot of people view it as a 'spat in the face' on Americans, especially those associated to the victims of the attack.

It says one thing that the push over Liberals in charge of the country who are obsessed with making things Politically Correct to the point where we get walked all over, are letting the structure being built. But it also shows the true colors of the Muslims who are behind the construction, that they just don't care for the feelings of those who actually live in the area. It's completely selfish. Mosques can be built elsewhere, you can't change how people feel in one day. The entire situation could be easily avoided but it won't be for two reasons:

1. A lot of the Anti-Mosque protesters don't make the best case for themselves and

2. A lot of those arguing as to why the Mosque should be built, refuse to see it the opposers way, and are only concerned with what they want to do.


Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shaun

-is thankful for being on a forum with Nettosuperstar and ange7-

some sense

saying that Islam was responsible for 9/11 is like saying Shintoism is responsible for Pearl Harbor. It's just using a national tragedy to sweep up hysteria in an attempt to tarnish an institution these people don't really understand.

Your a shining beacon too my love

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Particular Muslims ARE to blame for the 9/11 incident as Islam was the motivation behind the attacks, so to build a Muslim Mosque less than 2 blocks away from where the attack was is kind of a selfish move.

Yeah, there's freedom of speech, etc. Freedom to protest. But I think it's just insensitive and in poor taste to let the structure be built right there. 9/11 in the USA is a day that will live in infamy. The protests against it aren't an act of bigotry or hate, it's a protest of uncomfort. A LOT of people are uncomfortable with, essentially, a building being built so close to where the Trade Centers were that symbolizes the motivation of the Terrorists. So a lot of people view it as a 'spat in the face' on Americans, especially those associated to the victims of the attack.

It says one thing that the push over Liberals in charge of the country who are obsessed with making things Politically Correct to the point where we get walked all over, are letting the structure being built. But it also shows the true colors of the Muslims who are behind the construction, that they just don't care for the feelings of those who actually live in the area. It's completely selfish. Mosques can be built elsewhere, you can't change how people feel in one day. The entire situation could be easily avoided but it won't be for two reasons:

1. A lot of the Anti-Mosque protesters don't make the best case for themselves and

2. A lot of those arguing as to why the Mosque should be built, refuse to see it the opposers way, and are only concerned with what they want to do.


Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

Yeah, this pretty much sums up how I feel about it

[InOne]

Interesting vid. These Americans are doing themselves no favours but obviously emotions are running high

Youtube video

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by InOne

Interesting vid. These Americans are doing themselves no favours but obviously emotions are running high

Youtube video

The man who put his son in the middle of it enraged me, that's no place for a child to be. That woman was awful too, it's not very 'american' to scream at a veteran isn't it? Ignorant bitch.

I've subscribed to the user though, I agreed with her points completely.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The man who put his son in the middle of it enraged me, that's no place for a child to be. That woman was awful too, it's not very 'american' to scream at a veteran isn't it? Ignorant bitch.

I've subscrubed to the user though, I agreed with her points completely.

Yeah I've watched her vids for a while, they're always really good. And grrrr that loud mouthed bitch, god knows how they kept their cool. Hate it when people bark opinions like that. And the thing was the son was awful, reminded me of a doc I watched about fundie Christians and the son was speaking and got shouted down, and the dad just stood there and let it happen.

[Harry!]

A program about the 2 Twin Tower attacts is now showing on Channel 4.

[InOne]

This thread was crazy It's a shame we don't have debates like this anymore

The Ground Zero Mosque
Director Dan Reed investigates the controversy surrounding plans to build an Islamic community centre near the former site of the World Trade Centre buildings in Manhattan. He highlights how the project has exposed tensions at the heart of American democracy, discusses the media interest surrounding it, and reveals how its spiritual leader Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has been the target of attacks. The programme also tells the stories of families affected by the September 11 terrorist attacks who oppose the scheme

Monday 8pm on C4

[Callum]

It's still being built then?

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Particular Muslims ARE to blame for the 9/11 incident as Islam was the motivation behind the attacks, so to build a Muslim Mosque less than 2 blocks away from where the attack was is kind of a selfish move.

Yeah, there's freedom of speech, etc. Freedom to protest. But I think it's just insensitive and in poor taste to let the structure be built right there. 9/11 in the USA is a day that will live in infamy. The protests against it aren't an act of bigotry or hate, it's a protest of uncomfort. A LOT of people are uncomfortable with, essentially, a building being built so close to where the Trade Centers were that symbolizes the motivation of the Terrorists. So a lot of people view it as a 'spat in the face' on Americans, especially those associated to the victims of the attack.

It says one thing that the push over Liberals in charge of the country who are obsessed with making things Politically Correct to the point where we get walked all over, are letting the structure being built. But it also shows the true colors of the Muslims who are behind the construction, that they just don't care for the feelings of those who actually live in the area. It's completely selfish. Mosques can be built elsewhere, you can't change how people feel in one day. The entire situation could be easily avoided but it won't be for two reasons:

1. A lot of the Anti-Mosque protesters don't make the best case for themselves and

2. A lot of those arguing as to why the Mosque should be built, refuse to see it the opposers way, and are only concerned with what they want to do.


Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

You shouldn't be making such posts if you haven't done your homework. There's already a mosque down the block, and this isn't a "Ground Zero mosque". That's a far Right wing concoction, dreamed up by bigots who wish to turn the United States Third World, and have everyone living in caves. I'd like to see no Catholic Church within a mile radius of a children's school, but constitutionally, I can't make that happen.

Americans don't play the "PC card" either, so you mustn't be American. Don't go there.

Bigotry and hate = discomfort of those who are unlike yourself.

America likes to protect its Constitution, and its laws, and these people have every right to build where they wish. The far Right needs to get over it. The majority of Americans don't care about this. It's only the far Right losers who do, and the majority of them aren't even from NY. They're bused in from Bum****, set up to cause a riot in the streets. These are the same lot that bash NY for being "elitist", and "Liberal", like that's ever been a bad thing. They want to ram their religion down everyone's throats. They see this as part of a Christian Crusade. Zionist nut case, Pamela Gellar, you know, the one the Norwegian shooter was a fan of, started this nonsense.

Thank god for Liberals, who actually made everything good in the United States. If it were up to the Right, we'd still be having witch burnings. They only react on emotion, not rationality. Americans are not suppose to wimps. These idiots are crybabies. They still believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and had WMD. These are the single-digit IQ, Fox News group.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Callum

It's still being built then?

It's being built on private property. The government shall make no laws respecting or condemning any religion. US Constitution.

They have every right to build it, and no one can stop them.

They bought it. They can do whatever they like with it.

[Livia]

There's a difference between legal right and moral sensitivity. Can they build it there legally? Yes. Is it a moral thing to want to do? No.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

There's a difference between legal right and moral sensitivity. Can they build it there legally? Yes. Is it a moral thing to want to do? No.

Well, personally I agree.

I think if i was building an Islamic cultural center, I would choose the location with a bit more sensitivity, but at the same time, some of the behavior by the protesters has disgusted me. And i would hope Americans, especially New Yorkers, will try to be as tolerant as possible.

Any violence aganist this site I think would be met with UNIVERSAL condemnation by Americans, but some people are framing the debate as if crazy racist Americans will bomb it, I don't think that will happen.

I have read comments from some jewish people online that think it should be attacked, and they talk about 9/11, and "taste of their own medicine" type stuff, but i think it's just drunk people, and i believe that when it is completed the furore over it will die down.