[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I am pretty sure Aaron is not bothered about being nominated or going,he has not compromised his principles,I admire him for that,imo the only person intimidating that house is the big I am Jay,he has most of them scared except for Harry and Aaron,Aaron will be civil ,(he could have totally ignored jay)I respect Aaron for sticking to his beliefs.

I respect Aaron for not pretending to like or be friendly with Jay because he clearly does despise Jay,if he were to act friendly the accusation would be he was being false.

I also admire Aaron for his strength in even staying there,as I have said, I could not be anywhere near Jay and certainly not be able to live in the same house as him like they have to.

In those situations too, when you know someone is out to get at toy or ridicule you, the barest civility is needed,once you bring that barrier down you open the door to all sorts of problems.
If you really don't like someone and believe you cannot trust a word they say and hate near all they do too, 'morning and 'night would be all I could force myself to say to them.

If however they were in trouble or needed help, I would not turn my back completely to helping (if I could) then.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by angus58

Yes the same disgusting, foulmouthed disgrace of a HYPOCRITICAL man that cynically offered Aaron the hand of friendship when he knows full well the reasons Aaron hates him. Jay is a caricature of a man, a one dimensional thuggish, jack the lad oaf, who obviously thinks everyone should kow tow to him. He can't stand that Aaron won't crawl up his backside and for some obscure reason, Jay seems to think he can just demand respect, instead of earning it.

I have the independence to decide who I want to be friends with, who I talk to, and who I associate with, and I don't mix with and pretend to like people I don't just to make THEM feel better. You see it's called not being a hypocrite. I don't give the time of day to those I despise, why would I? Life is way too short to spend it on such people. I admire Aaron exercising his freedom of choice to mix with who HE wants, and I would actually lose a lot of respect for him if he compromised his principles by pretending to like such an obscene and arrogant buffoon. Now THAT would be called being fake.

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

[fruit_cake]

I just hope Aaron doesn't drag Faye into his weird world and isolate her like he is isolating himself

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

Poor Jay? You're having a laugh.

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Poor Jay? You're having a laugh.

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

you're going of on a tangent there, stick to the topic please

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

Just as your dismissiveness of others' valid points also carries no substance - where is your argument? If you don't want an answer, don't ask. It's nothing to do with emotion, it's to do with observation of people's behaviour in a confined enviroment. Perhaps I'm more old school, because that, to me, is what BB is all about - watching how people behave when they are taken out of their everyday lives and thrown together with a disparate group of people.

The only thing we can agree upon here is that Jay is indeed quite simple.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I just hope Aaron doesn't drag Faye into his weird world and isolate her like he is isolating himself

Haven't seen any evidence that Aaron has dragged her anywhere - in fact she can't seem to leave him alone.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by angus58

The only thing we can agree upon here is that Jay is indeed quite simple.

well, with respect, now you saying Jay is simple, but just a few posts back he was..

disgusting, foulmouthed disgrace of a HYPOCRITICAL man that cynically offered Aaron the hand of friendship when he knows full well the reasons Aaron hates him. Jay is a caricature of a man, a one dimensional thuggish, jack the lad oaf, who obviously thinks everyone should kow tow to him. He can't stand that Aaron won't crawl up his backside and for some obscure reason, Jay seems to think he can just demand respect, instead of earning it.

That's hardly a description of someone who is simple, imo. To me, your contradicting yourself and it's because you appear to dislike Jay purely based on emotion and not on facts. I could be wrong though, that I accept.

[fruit_cake]

Jay seems to me to be a fairly simple guy to understand

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Poor Jay? You're having a laugh.

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

you're going of on a tangent there, stick to the topic please

You will find I was addressing your very own post at the top. If anyone is taking the matter off topic - then it is you fruit_cake.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You will find I was addressing your very own post at the top. If anyone is taking the matter off topic - then it is you fruit_cake.

I suspected you would say that

[Visage]

Originally Posted by angus58

Haven't seen any evidence that Aaron has dragged her anywhere - in fact she can't seem to leave him alone.

Very true.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I suspected you would say that

Because I hit the nail on the head.

Aaron is able to make his own decisions - unlike Jay - who has to rely on no-marks such as Anton to even 'give him ideas'. (ie: food colouring in bath where clothes were soaking). The guy is lame, in every sense.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well, with respect, now you saying Jay is simple, but just a few posts back he was..



That's hardly a description of someone who is simple, imo. To me, your contradicting yourself and it's because you appear to dislike Jay purely based on emotion and not on facts. I could be wrong though, that I accept.

Oh dear, oh dear - if you do not understand the relationship between being simple (in the broadest sense of the word) and the sorts of obnoxious behaviours that Jay exhibits, it's not really worth discussing further with you.

Furthermore, I make no apology for an emotional reaction to a neanderthal such as him since that is a natural and instinctive reaction based on the evidence of my own observation, intellect, principles, morality etc. It is what each and every one of us, YES even you Fruit_Cake, use to determine who we like, love, hate, dislike, despise, etc etc. We are either drawn to people or repelled by them - and what determines which reaction? Think about it.

[flamingGalah!]

I would be the same as Aaron. Why be two faced & pretend to be pally with people you don't like?? He knows full well that Jay & Anton don't like him & the feeling is more than mutual, so I respect him more for actually be true to himself & telling Jay exactly how it is...

And as others have said, if Aaron DID talk to them & pretend to be pally everyone would be shouting about how two faced he was, slagging them off behind their backs, yet nice to to their face...

[Suze]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

Did this all happen after Faye's sister arrived? If so, if she has devulged anything to Jay how he is coming across with Aaron, Jay may be upping a gameplan to reel the audience/fans of the show in, is this possible? If Jay is a C5 and Desmond dream for a win, then it could be why someone was added to give him a heads up? And adding Faye's sister could have the opposite effect for Aaron also. After all, why now? why does he suddenly want to make up with someone he seems to be sla**ing off at every given opportunity, if it was heartfelt surely he would have wanted this long before now? I think Aaron has done the right thing to shrug Jay off.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

Afternoon Joey
..Maybe there's another reason Aaron moves away from him.....the reports of his constant farting...I have a theory he farted over the freezer..and things went further than he planned......Didn't he also say something about 'Clearing the air' being the best thing to stop bitching behind peoples backs....yet when Heaven tried to do that with Rebekah and he had the opportunity to 'clear it up'.....he pleaded the fifth amendment......

[Suze]

You could be right about the farting, Ammi. But why I doubt he intended to just fart is that Heaven said the s**tting was a dare didn't she? Not he was dared to fart in it, or any of them including the girls might have been up for that? or were just joking about his farting

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Suze

Did this all happen after Faye's sister arrived? If so, if she has devulged anything to Jay how he is coming across with Aaron, Jay may be upping a gameplan to reel the audience/fans of the show in, is this possible? If Jay is a C5 and Desmond dream for a win, then it could be why someone was added to give him a heads up? And adding Faye's sister could have the opposite effect for Aaron also. After all, why now? why does he suddenly want to make up with someone he seems to be sla**ing off at every given opportunity, if it was heartfelt surely he would have wanted this long before now? I think Aaron has done the right thing to shrug Jay off.

Well it is also down to the editing, I have to admit this is getting annoying that we get bits of things likely even out of context which is very bad really.

Aaron was talking to Aden, they were having a good chat and Aden agreed with near all Aaron was saying or appeared to, Jay then joined them,always heading where Aaron is as well as anyone else and the conversation ended.

Earlier though, Jay had gone to Aaron and asked him if there was anything he wanted to say to him. Aaron said he couldn't be bothered with it all and they then had a short discussion that ended with Aaron saying he knew people were saying things behind others backs that they weren't to their faces.

Jay ended with 'you have got me thinking now as to who is 2 faced'.

It was a fair chat however,then Aden came out and joined Jay and Jay just said to Aden, 'I just asked him if he had anything he wanted to say to me' and he said 'not really'.

How much of that was down to editing I don't know but if Jay only said that to Aden, he inferred that Aaron had said only 'not really' and headed off with none of the other dialogue mentioned thereby making Aaron look very bad.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Afternoon Joey
..Maybe there's another reason Aaron moves away from him.....the reports of his constant farting...I have a theory he farted over the freezer..and things went further than he planned......Didn't he also say something about 'Clearing the air' being the best thing to stop bitching behind peoples backs....yet when Heaven tried to do that with Rebekah and he had the opportunity to 'clear it up'.....he pleaded the fifth amendment......

Afternoon to you too Ammi, ugh he's so gross, I really find him disgusting.

It wouldn't surprise me if he smells of mess,it comes from both ends of him anyway.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Afternoon to you too Ammi, ugh he's so gross, I really find him disgusting.

It wouldn't surprise me if he smells of mess,it comes from both ends of him anyway.

.....LMAO Joey........

[Suze]

Thanks for explaining Joey. In all honesty, I am resigned to the fact that BB want Jay who is the only one in that house who actually repulses me the more he does in there, to win with Alex runner up, and that is probably what they will get So I am under no delusions we will get anything else if BB have their way. The dinner with Jay's Mum booby prize sort of clinched the list of suspect things with this BB.

[Wee-Mo]

aaron needs to grow a set of balls he should have told jay exactly what he was miffed about but was to scared to,

[fruit_cake]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

[billy123]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

Pretty much yes he is acting like a 12 year old brat and i see he is pretty much hated everywhere online except here which makes me happy :~)
His support from here seems to be evaporating too except the kids that cant spot people being duplicitous.