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Vicky. · 13-10-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

Aaron messed up the luxury budget for everyone by instigating the walk out to get back at Anton. That was just petty and selfish. I don't like Anton either, but Aaron is just too self centred and arrogant for a man of 30.

Yeah, I mean did you see the horrible bastard literally push Jem and Harry out of the door? Scandalous

Vanessa · 13-10-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah, I mean did you see the horrible bastard literally push Jem and Harry out of the door? Scandalous

Four people walk out the task room and Aaron gets all the blame!I don't get it!

Vicky. · 13-10-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Four people walk out the task room and Aaron gets all the blame!I don't get it!

You get used to everything being Aarons fault. Some FMs even extend the blame to Harry too at times, but usually everything is Aaron

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Four people walk out the task room and Aaron gets all the blame!I don't get it!

Absolutely right, good comment Vanessa.

jet · 13-10-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Four people walk out the task room and Aaron gets all the blame!I don't get it!

He instigated it, but the the others didn't have to go. I'll give you that...

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

He instigated it, but the the others didn't have to go. I'll give you that...

A bully would have made them go though so he can't even be possibly bullyish.
They all who were left in there chose to agree and go out as well at the same time.
Aden as I said before too,had he been in there that long too, he would have likely come out too,he was the first complaining of feeling like it was cabin fever.

That's not a bully,it's airing how he felt and everyone agreed with him,totally agreed.

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 12:10 AM

I didn't hear anyone of others disagree as to giving up the task, they had been in there for 11 hours at least with only 2 others freed in all that time.I'd have walked out too.

Also had Aden not been freed,he'd have joined them leaving as well, he was the first to complain as to cabin fever, he was sick after barely half the time they had been in.Alex wasn't even bothered as to a luxury shopping budget, so over half of them would have called it a day anyway.

AS for Anton, he only wanted to free Faye to spite Aaron and Faye knew that too which is why she grinned knowingly when they said Anton was going to free her.

When it comes to being self centred and arrogant, Anton is the master of that but really nasty with it too.

Novo · 13-10-2011, 12:14 AM

I don't even find this thread serious to be honest i can't take it seriously anyway..

Kerry · 13-10-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Novo

I don't even find this thread serious to be honest i can't take it seriously anyway..

jet · 13-10-2011, 12:16 AM

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Yeah, I mean did you see the horrible bastard literally push Jem and Harry out of the door? Scandalous

I wouldn't say he was a horrible bastard. Thats a bit dramatic. Just sly and immature, and a cry baby who can't seem to handle any tasks with maturity. Would would employ him? He's pretty wet and useless...

Raven · 13-10-2011, 01:10 AM

The 'full story' niamh? Only in your rather biased view!

I see someone using blatent passive agressive tactics, sulking and creating an atmosphere any time he doesn't get his own way, refusing to take responsibility for his actions (Sulking till the wronged person feels uncomfortable enough to offer the olive branch then acting like he hadn't done anything wrong because THEY made the appology in order to stop the sulking) and manipulating others with zero regard for the effect on them.

I usualy only apply 'bully' when there is more direct confrontation but I can see how it could be viewed that way. Aaron is worse than anton in many ways, just a little more subtle about it.

fruit_cake · 13-10-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

The 'full story' niamh? Only in your rather biased view!

I see someone using blatent passive agressive tactics, sulking and creating an atmosphere any time he doesn't get his own way, refusing to take responsibility for his actions (Sulking till the wronged person feels uncomfortable enough to offer the olive branch then acting like he hadn't done anything wrong because THEY made the appology in order to stop the sulking) and manipulating others with zero regard for the effect on them.

I usualy only apply 'bully' when there is more direct confrontation but I can see how it could be viewed that way. Aaron is worse than anton in many ways, just a little more subtle about it.

this.

Aaron isn't a bully, I think that's too strong a word, but we have seen examples where he has tried to isolate individuals from him and his friend(s) and attack them for example

insulting Pamela with Harry in week 1
laughing about Rebecakah behind her back, telling her he likes her, then telling everyone else how much he dislikes her
insulting and manipulating Aden about smoking last night

"good beats evil every time" er..yeah ok Arron, shame your not particularly good isn't it.

Chuck · 13-10-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

The 'full story' niamh? Only in your rather biased view!

I see someone using blatent passive agressive tactics, sulking and creating an atmosphere any time he doesn't get his own way, refusing to take responsibility for his actions (Sulking till the wronged person feels uncomfortable enough to offer the olive branch then acting like he hadn't done anything wrong because THEY made the appology in order to stop the sulking) and manipulating others with zero regard for the effect on them.

I usualy only apply 'bully' when there is more direct confrontation but I can see how it could be viewed that way. Aaron is worse than anton in many ways, just a little more subtle about it.

This is pretty much my opinion about him too.

Pyramid* · 13-10-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

The 'full story' niamh? Only in your rather biased view!

I see someone using blatent passive agressive tactics, sulking and creating an atmosphere any time he doesn't get his own way, refusing to take responsibility for his actions (Sulking till the wronged person feels uncomfortable enough to offer the olive branch then acting like he hadn't done anything wrong because THEY made the appology in order to stop the sulking) and manipulating others with zero regard for the effect on them.

I usualy only apply 'bully' when there is more direct confrontation but I can see how it could be viewed that way. Aaron is worse than anton in many ways, just a little more subtle about it.

I'd say the BIB applied far more to Jay, Aden and Anton.

Are you suggesting that Aaron should take what this motley crew of mutts do to him, to his possessions, should be allowed to speak to him, about him the way they do, without Aaron daring to challenge them for their behaviour towards him - you want him to do nothing at all about it - and act like the spineless gits that the terrible trio are?

I'd call someone who did that a coward - and thankfully, Aaron is not a coward, in the same way that he is not a bully.

armand.kay · 13-10-2011, 01:11 AM

A bully realy? what on earth has he done to be a bully?

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay

A bully realy? what on earth has he done to be a bully?

A very good question armand.kay.
Not one single thing Aaron has done could fit into the term of being a bully or bully tactics even. Not a single thing.

Bullies are cowardly people who intimidate others when they get them on their own in the main, what bullies do is threaten,oftem blackmail and frighten their victims.

Aaron has not done a single thing that would ever stand up to the phrase he had adopted being a bully or even engaged in bullying tactics.

billy123 · 13-10-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

A very good question armand.kay.
Not one single thing Aaron has done could fit into the term of being a bully or bully tactics even. Not a single thing.

Bullies are cowardly people who intimidate others when they get them on their own in the main, what bullies do is threaten,oftem blackmail and frighten their victims.

Aaron has not done a single thing that would ever stand up to the phrase he had adopted being a bully or even engaged in bullying tactics.

That doesnt deflect from the fact that he is a complete twat though does it

I find some of the desperation on display quite amusing

People have cottoned on to Aarons vile behaviour this makes me very happy

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot

That doesnt deflect from the fact that he is a complete twat though does it

I find some of the desperation on display quite amusing

People have cottoned on to Aarons vile behaviour this makes me very happy

1), If I thought anyone was a bully in any sense of the word I would hammer those people left,right and centre,I have seen people bullied and Aaron is nothing like a bully nor acts like one.

2).His behaviour to me is not even vile,I consider Jay and Anton's to be though but that is my opinion,I don't like them at all,however others disagree with me on that and are entitled to.

3).Calling someone a bully though who is not, is a very insulting term indeed and I am especially pleased that it appears on your post above bobnot, you and I can at last agree on something, as it seems, even you, although you do not like him one bit, now don't accept the term bully is appropriate.

Gary2010 · 13-10-2011, 08:20 AM

Aaron is not a bully, he just won't be controlled by Anton. I think Aaron and Harry have agreed not to complete any task anyway.

Suze · 13-10-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary2010

Aaron is not a bully, he just won't be controlled by Anton. I think Aaron and Harry have agreed not to complete any task anyway.

I don't see what is wrong with sabotaging some tasks anyway, it adds to/improves watchability imo. Also wasn't it Anton's and/or Aden's idea to start with to sabotage the Banana's shopping task list? If so, have Anton fans conveniently forgotten that then?

joeysteele · 13-10-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Suze

I don't see what is wrong with sabotaging some tasks anyway, it adds to/improves watchability imo. Also wasn't it Anton's and/or Aden's idea to start with to sabotage the Banana's shopping task list? If so, have Anton fans conveniently forgotten that then?

They get so much in extra alcohol and treats and takeaways that they are hardly greatly inconvenienced.

They have been pampered so far with so much as to good shopping budgets,they always seem to have cigarettes too. One week of a bit of inconvenience will hardly hurt them one bit.

I agree it's good to see some tasks sabotaged,especially that long drawn out boring task, it wasn't as though there was even much to see the others doing either.
Just 4 tasks, to free the trapped people in over 11 hours, boring and ridiculous, I'd have walked off it for sure.