[jet]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

Agree 100%. Brilliant post.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by jet

I find Aaron very easy to read. I always have. I was right about him being manipulative, devious and sly - when that was always denied by his fans. I'll know when and if he has real feelings for Faye and I'll let you know.
Don't be holding your breath now.

Ooh the irony of being asked to show your credentials given the flow of events. It's without parallel, certainly in my living memory.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Ooh the irony of being asked to show your credentials given the flow of events. It's without parallel, certainly in my living memory.

So you are mad I was right then, eh?

[tonyface]

Originally Posted by jet

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.

Great post, and you have analysed it perfectly.

I really liked Harry, he was defo the most likeable male housemate, and nobody can say he is insincere and would not tell it exactly how it is, what possible motivation would he have to spin porkies......

The reaction of Aaron's brother to Faye's mum tells you all you need to know about the Aaron family make up......

[tonyface]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

You got it, spot on...

Who say's they are practically in love with someone, and then on the same day, go into the diary room with a smile on your face, and try and point score over a young kid, because she has a few dreams of one day having a nice life and maybe one day owning a nice car.......

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by angus58

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?

Why not list some of his bad points then instead of constantly referring to his good points all the time?

It would give you more kudos.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by jet

So you are mad I was right then, eh?

No No i'll explain myself better

I find it ironic that you are asked to explain how a judgment of Aarons love could be proved, from someone who fell for the Aaron is not using Faye ploy.

The flow of events has clearly shown you are a better judge of Aaron than some of his fans.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

No No i'll explain myself better

I find it ironic that you are asked to explain how a judgment of Aarons love could be proved, from someone who fell for the Aaron is not using Faye ploy.

The flow of events has clearly shown you are a better judge of Aaron than some of his fans.

Oh I see. Thanks.

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by angus58

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?

Why would i need to read and believe textbooks,that are after all,just someones opinion,before making a reasonable judgement?

I am very well able to use common sense to appraise a situation,but i am recently coming to the conclusion that sometimes,sense isn't all that common.

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by tonyface

You got it, spot on...

Who say's they are practically in love with someone, and then on the same day, go into the diary room with a smile on your face, and try and point score over a young kid, because she has a few dreams of one day having a nice life and maybe one day owning a nice car.......

Exactly....Now imagine the stink if Jay for example had done this!!

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Exactly....Now imagine the stink if Jay for example had done this!!

Imagine the stink if Jay had wiped his arse crack on your pillows!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Imagine the stink if Jay had wiped his arse crack on your pillows!

No Thanks, iv got a Jack Russell called Nutella that does that already.

[BJ]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Never thought Aaron wasnt playing a game

Still dont think hes using Faye though, no matter how many times it gets repeated

Agree

Aaron is a decent guy and that's why I'll continue supporting him too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by angus58

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?

THIS^Your posts are always spot on Angus

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by BJ

Aaron is a decent guy

And certain posters on here tell me that everyone gets the game Aaron is playing, but just like him for playing it cleverely...

Now that might well be true of ome, but posts like this prove that a lot don't get his game at all, the one at their expense and on them, and have fallen for his manipulation in style.

This is a major part of why I object to him. His pushing of the public buttons... Harry gets it, as do other ex HMs, and have said it, yet people don't get it.

Aaron himself said he was going to play a game in hi VT, and yet the a lot of the public have forgotten that and consider him genuine.

I honestly think at this stage Aaron could look into the camera and say, "I think your all fools and beneath me and worthy of only my contempt and manipulation, and I will keep pushing your buttons and using you until you have no more moneyand then I will sell my stories to the mags and laugh openly at you" and people would still tune it out and say he is genuine and decent.