[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would you have been as willing to accept Harrys story as the 'truth'(rather than just his opinion) if he had came out and stuck to his original story about Aaron/Faye?

Of course, it was actually what I was expecting him to do... I assumed he was closer to Aaron then he seems to be. But it's obvious now that allying with Aaron was just part of Harry's game and he never really trusted him based on what he saw of the guy.

Though of course you won't believe this answer and will just post something like "ok... " or whatever.

But... /shrug.

[Beastie]

It was only Alex who was genuinely upset that Harry was evicted.

However most of them don't care. Most of them are in it for themselves and want to stay in the BB house.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This also confuses me. In his goodbye video he assured Louise that he did NOT think she was thick. Then made a point on BBBOTS that he did think she was...

If it was part of his gameplan to be nice and get on with everyone, why would he need to keep up the pretense when he was out?

yes infact he said she was 100% thick.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ofc he did... he was playing the game in the house... I don't see what people can't grasp about that.

Ofc his opinion was different when he came out... thats what playing the game means.

I believe the Harry speaking now is the truthful version-the one that isn't in the game anymore and has the freedom to speak his truth.

No need to get shirty!!! lol

We KNOW he has been playing a game in the house.

What we do not know is if he is STILL playing the game.

Harry is definately singing a different tune now: but which one is the real tune - this sudden 'villan' one - or not.

the only one who knows that for absolute certainty is Harry.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Of course, it was actually what I was expecting him to do... I assumed he was closer to Aaron then he seems to be. But it's obvious now that allying with Aaron was just part of Harry's game and he never really trusted him based on what he saw of the guy.

Though of course you won't believe this answer and will just post something like "ok... " or whatever.

But... /shrug.

and that's fine, just like it's fine for Aaron fans to be upset with him because of it.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Really. Here's a few snippets from your previous posts about Aaron.


Who would vote for someone they are not a fan of - or rally up votes for him, even if they were Faye related?.....


You liked Aaron providing this kind of entertainment though....




Sticking up for Aaron and Faye here....



And you liked him here.....





You luv him really Fruit_cake, it's okay to say so.

I don't think it's any secret that Aaron has gone up and down in my own view but it's hardly relative to this thread. It's normal that Faye fans have voted for Aaron from time to time, when we thought it was the right time, which probably most of us did when it was supposed to be Aaron vs Jem.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by angus58

Got to hand it to Aaron, he knows how to get himself some airtime doesn't he? And then afterwards, because Faye was genuinely upset and getting all the camera shots, he thought "I'll have some of that" and turned on his theory about Jay and the Fans to share the limelight

Edited it for you Angus, I think it's correct now

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm not sure who you mean because I've never been an Aaron fan

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't think it's any secret that Aaron has gone up and down in my own view but it's hardly relative to this thread. It's normal that Faye fans have voted for Aaron from time to time, when we thought it was the right time, which probably most of us did when it was supposed to be Aaron vs Jem.

It's entirely relative to this thread, seeing as you posted the top comment on this thread stating quite categorically that you have never been an Aaron fan.

I didn't say it was a secret that you have supported him, what I have done is show that you deny supporting Aaron when it suits the argument, when the fact is, you have not only given him your support, but VOTED TO SAVE him.

I am not a Jay or Faye Fan, or supporter. I would never ever ever put one vote Faye or Jay's way.

Back directly on topic: If Harry played the game in the house - he has done a fine job because it kept him there for as long as it did.

Shame he has shown himself to be a cad: especially about what Aaron and Faye's relationship. There is only one person in there who knows whether he feels something genuine for her or not: and that it Aaron.

No one will find that out, until Aaron leaves the house.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

and that's fine, just like it's fine for Aaron fans to be upset with him because of it.

You see, I don't see it as fine Roy...

To cheer one HM for something you villify another with isn't fine :/

IMO, a person should either say they love game players and embrace Harry's 'switch' with good humour now he has left, or just admit they don't like game players and stop using game playing as a defense for Aaron's manipulations of the public and HMs alike.

If an Aaron fan is upset with Harry for playing the game, then I consider that a hypocrisy, esecially the ones that insist they DO know Aaron is manipulating the public and HMs alike.

But... Like I said before, Harry is just another HM now to be sacrificed at the alter of defending Aaron to the end :/

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You see, I don't see it as fine Roy...

To cheer one HM for something you villify another with isn't fine :/

IMO, a person should either say they love game players and embrace Harry's switch now he has left in good humour, or just admit they don't like game players and stop using it as a defense for Aaron's manipulations of the public and HMs alike.

If an Aaron fan is upset with Harry for playing the game, then I consider that a hypocrisy.

But... Like I said before, Harry is just another HM now to be sacrificed at the alter of defending Aaron to the end :/

The one thing you appear to not be considering here is this: what you think is not necessarily right - or wrong for that matter.

It is only your opinion. Because it's not shared by all, doesn't mean you right, or they are wrong (or the other way about).

It's your opinion and no matter how many times you say the same thing over and over again: people have their own views, their own opinions and it seems you simply won't change their minds.

Opinions are subjective. That's the way it goes.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You see, I don't see it as fine Roy...

To cheer one HM for something you villify another with isn't fine :/

IMO, a person should either say they love game players and embrace Harry's switch now he has left in good humour, or just admit they don't like game players and stop using it as a defense for Aaron's manipulations of the public and HMs alike.

If an Aaron fan is upset with Harry for playing the game, then I consider that a hypocrisy.

But... Like I said before, Harry is just another HM now to be sacrificed at the alter of defending Aaron to the end :/

I see your point, but personally I really have no problem with Harry or what he said, though I can understand that others do. I'm a little sad that maybe the Aaron/Harry friendship isn't as great as I thought, but that's all really. Harry played a game, Aaron is playing a game, I have no problem with game players at all. I find Aaron entertaining, and that's all I really ask for out of a housemate.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The one thing you appear to not be considering here is this: what you think is not necessarily right - or wrong for that matter.

It is only your opinion... /etc

Thanks for the school of the obvious.

Thats what IMO means... In my opinion. I thought saying it once in a post would be enough... do I really need to post it before every sentence to make it clear?

[sosadbbend]

I don't believe anything I read in the tabloids!!!!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

I see your point, but personally I really have no problem with Harry or what he said, though I can understand that others do. I'm a little sad that maybe the Aaron/Harry friendship isn't as great as I thought, but that's all really. Harry played a game, Aaron is playing a game, I have no problem with game players at all. I find Aaron entertaining, and that's all I really ask for out of a housemate.

I do like your posts Roy, I must say.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Thanks for the school of the obvious.

Thats what IMO means... In my opinion. I thought saying it once in a post would be enough... do I really need to post it before every sentence to make it clear?

No need for the unecessarily rude and facetious reply.

My previous response to you was a civil and reasonable one and given in a decent and respectful manner.

The manner in which you are putting your opinions over: come across as though your view should be taken as the only one - or that others should succumb to agreeing with you.

I don't and I believe I explained why I have my own view on the situatino, on the great many posts I've made since the strart of this thread.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Of course he's not using her, didn't this 30 year old man, who surely has lived and therefore knows what he's talking about, tell Faye that he loved her!!

If you believe that you will believe anything.
His feelings are wrapped up in the fact that these people have been together 24/7. There is no way these two will stay together any longer than the mag deals.
No doubt he wants quick money which will make a fair divorce deal or even a reunion with his wife. Her newspaper interview was very revealing. ie it is not seven years since he has had sex.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

No need for the unecessarily rude and facetious... /snip

[G1dds]

Originally Posted by boomoo

If you believe that you will believe anything.
His feelings are wrapped up in the fact that these people have been together 24/7. There is no way these two will stay together any longer than the mag deals.
No doubt he wants quick money which will make a fair divorce deal or even a reunion with his wife. Her newspaper interview was very revealing. ie it is not seven years since he has had sex.

Oh Honestly - I dont think very many people believed that part.......what was really considered was that he had a bit of decency whereby he didnt feel the need to share his sex life with all of sundry, and quite frankly I dont blame him. Not everyone is like Jay or Anton

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

First up we have the most recent revelation which is HERE

Big bitchfest about how Aaron is indeed using Faye.

However only a few days ago Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or is he lying now for a paid interview?




Seems his opinion did a total U-turn within about an hour of leaving the house. I wonder why

Yes Vicky you're totally right!....Harry is no more than a weasle!!

He never came above third place on my list anyway...but the thing that really irks me about him is...that he is the first slimeball that I failed to spot before he revealed his true colours! ...Shame on me!...I must be getting old or something!

[pimpslapper]

Originally Posted by Beastie

It was only Alex who was genuinely upset that Harry was evicted.

However most of them don't care. Most of them are in it for themselves and want to stay in the BB house.

Aaron also cried and was visibly broken by the whole incident. Harry clearly never gave a **** about the bloke as shown by him laughing through the parents nominations. Aaron was right to call Mark over Harry as his closest friend in the house. Harry relied on Aaron in that house for real conversations more than he cares to admit now he is out of there.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

First up we have the most recent revelation which is HERE

Big bitchfest about how Aaron is indeed using Faye.

However only a few days ago Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or is he lying now for a paid interview?




Seems his opinion did a total U-turn within about an hour of leaving the house. I wonder why

He certainly has contradicted himself a few times hasn't he. It does compromise his value as a witness somewhat.

The way i see it his loyalty to Aaron made him back his friend up, maybe because he felt his own survival was linked to Aaron's fate. Good guess work of course "The Lord & the Wing Commander" & the fact that Aaron fans threw votes at Harry shows this i think.

That sorts out for me Harry to Faye a few days ago, but it doesn't explain why he did not tell Faye after he had been voted out, although i think his conversation's to Faye after he was voted out more vague, and more make your own mind up as appose to he isn't using you.
Could be wrong but that was the impression i got.

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

yeah, i agree.

Harry was an amazing hm and played the game entertainingly.

Yet he is now being called 'backtabber' and 'liar', because he played the game so many attacking him profess to love seeing played.

Further proves to me,tbh, that alot of the people that say they do don't actually love game players at all... They just love aaron, based on the personality he has constructed to fool them. They just use 'he's playing the game' as a transparent defense for his actions.

Because anyone else who plays the game is villified for it.

^^^this!!^^^

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

yeah, i agree.

Harry was an amazing hm and played the game entertainingly.

Yet he is now being called 'backtabber' and 'liar', because he played the game so many attacking him profess to love seeing played.

Further proves to me,tbh, that alot of the people that say they do don't actually love game players at all... They just love aaron, based on the personality he has constructed to fool them. They just use 'he's playing the game' as a transparent defense for his actions.

Because anyone else who plays the game is villified for it.

^^^this!!^^^

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Faye was telling Aaron about how guilty she felt that she stayed and Harry left, she was really upset about it..but he just ignored her and went on about some random theory he had conjured up about Jay and the fans.

here is proof that Faye loved Harry I hope you appreciate it it took me ages to find the right bits. Faye was the one who showed him the most affection when he left, whereas Aaron just sat there crying to himself.

Thats not true....He and Harry hugged twice...and Aaron was in tears. However so was Faye but according to you Fayes were genuine and Aarons were not....delusional...

[karezza]

Faye will be worse than Harry when she is evicted. She will be really nasty.