[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

It is quite clear that he is upset because he knows Aaron is right but doesn't want to admit it.

I see you've adopted Aarons idea that anyone that disagrees with you does so because they feel guilty.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Yes, I did. Aaron has nothing to say for himself, and he surely does not destroy anyone. Jay is clearly upset yes, but I'm pretty sure that's because he's proper angry about Aaron unjustly playing the victim card once again, and not making the slightest effort to put things right.

Oh dear!

Do you really think you have to have a verbal slanging match to win or "own" someone.

The moment Jay swayed off the subject and brought up Faye and that he was responsible for her leaving was the very point Aaron owned him. He could not win with his petty argument so had to start getting personal and bring in rubbish which actually (as Aaron pointed out to him) wasn't true because it was his g/f fault.

Owned .... big time!


And I won't even waste my time on Louise ..... who almost attempted to get some tears but clearly failed as she had missed that acting class lesson!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

I see you've adopted Aarons idea that anyone that disagrees with you does so because they feel guilty.

It's okay, I forgive you.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yeah lets all feel sorry for poor hard done by Aaron ,the master manipulator who has never said or done anything behind any one's back....

Aaron has played a good game until now but he should stop this poor little picked upon me bull,this is of his own making and should stop acting like a two year old.

IF he'de been playing this massive 'game' as some people claim then he would have gone along with the 'present' thing to make himself look good,Aaron does not try and win favour and that is one thing I like him for,he is not pretending to be such a 'nice' person,then threatening to 'knock someone out'.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

Oh dear!

Do you really think you have to have a verbal slanging match to win or "own" someone.

The moment Jay swayed off the subject and brought up Faye and that he was responsible for her leaving was the very point Aaron owned him. He could not win with his petty argument so had to start getting personal and bring in rubbish which actually (as Aaron pointed out to him) wasn't true because it was his g/f fault.

Owned .... big time!


And I won't even waste my time on Louise ..... who almost attempted to get some tears but clearly failed as she had missed that acting class lesson!

Exactly,Jay was floored with just a few words.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

It's okay, I forgive you.

You could at least have been funny, that's just meh. At best.

Originally Posted by Marmalite

Oh dear!

Do you really think you have to have a verbal slanging match to win or "own" someone.

The moment Jay swayed off the subject and brought up Faye and that he was responsible for her leaving was the very point Aaron owned him. He could not win with his petty argument so had to start getting personal and bring in rubbish which actually (as Aaron pointed out to him) wasn't true because it was his g/f fault.

Owned .... big time!


And I won't even waste my time on Louise ..... who almost attempted to get some tears but clearly failed as she had missed that acting class lesson!

Yes, please do ignore why Jay brought the nominations up, because it's not like it's in any way relevant that Aaaron goes behind people's back whenever it suits him and then try to make it out like it's because of his principles. The reason why he mentioned how Aaron was with Faye is because it highlights Aaron's behaviour whenever he's fallen out with someone; he never tries to meet them halfway.

Jay is the bigger man here, no matter what one might think of him otherwise. He reaches out, Aaron does not.

[Jords]

Just remember Aaron removed HIMSELF from the group.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Yes, please do ignore why Jay brought the nominations up, because it's not like it's in any way relevant that Aaaron goes behind people's back whenever it suits him and then try to make it out like it's because of his principles.

What like your ignoring the fact that Aaron was the only one amongst the lot that had the brains to tell them how to vote initially so that they would all be up but it was BB stopped them and made them redo the noms numerous times?

Or was it the fact that it was not Aaron but Jay's idea to get everyone up and Aaron said right from the start he's not being told by anyone on how or who to vote?

Or would it be the fact that Louise chose to put Faye up instead of choosing Tom in which they would all, except Alex, be up?

Or would it be the fact that Louise said afterwards that she didn't want to put her friend Alex and Tom up so chose Faye and knew exactly what she was doing?


Sorry, I'm a bit confused as there are so many options to choose from!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jords

Just remember Aaron removed HIMSELF from the group.

Glad he did,I wouldn't want to be around people like Louise and Jay,Good on him

[Scotty07]

Originally Posted by kazanne

They cannot function alone,they always have to have back up the true sign of a coward,love or dislike Aaron,he doesn't need to form 'gangs'

It's the same every year, you're always gauranteed to get more sheep. Housemates that think for themselves and aren't afraid to say what they think for fear of being up for eviction or being isolated, are the reason I watch Big Brother. It's a shame we don't get more of the Aaron's, Marcus's, Rex's, Science's etc. etc. and less of the gangs.

BB10 in particular, was spoilt because of the sheep. Almost every week that year, interesting and outspoken housemates whether you liked them or not, were up for eviction in a head to head. Marcus Vs Freddie being the worst in BB history because they were both my favourites by far that year

AARON TO WIN.

[Tourmaline]

Does Louise have ANY principles at all? One minute she's saying she'd prefer to send money to Africa and in the next breath she decides to buy a Ł500 pair of shoes to someone who has already made Ł10,000 and therefore can well afford to buy her own

[soundslike]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Mr Cool,can upset people without even a word

Mr Cold more like. and that sulky creased face would upset the nicest of people.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

What like your ignoring the fact that Aaron was the only one amongst the lot that had the brains to tell them how to vote initially so that they would all be up but it was BB stopped them and made them redo the noms numerous times?

Or was it the fact that it was not Aaron but Jay's idea to get everyone up and Aaron said right from the start he's not being told by anyone on how or who to vote?

Or would it be the fact that Louise chose to put Faye up instead of choosing Tom in which they would all, except Alex, be up?

Or would it be the fact that Louise said afterwards that she didn't want to put her friend Alex and Tom up so chose Faye and knew exactly what she was doing?


Sorry, I'm a bit confused as there are so many options to choose from!

We have different views on the nom thing, and I have no desire to bring up that discussion in general. It was only relevant in the sense that no matter if one shares Jay's take on that or not, they were similar and recent enough to warrant him bringing them up. If Jay and Louise are shady for not telling Aaron they changed their minds and decided to buy gifts anyway, then Aaron is certainly shady for not telling them he was changing nominations.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by soundslike

Mr Cold more like. and that sulky creased face would upset the nicest of people.

He has a lovely face,don't be silly,calling someones looks is a bit er.................shallow,he hasn't upset me and I am nice

[lucyann]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

Good to see Aaron owning them all

Well said... Aaron has more dignity in his little finger than that pair in their whole bodies.

[lucyann]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

We have different views on the nom thing, and I have no desire to bring up that discussion in general. It was only relevant in the sense that no matter if one shares Jay's take on that or not, they were similar and recent enough to warrant him bringing them up. If Jay and Louise are shady for not telling Aaron they changed their minds and decided to buy gifts anyway, then Aaron is certainly shady for not telling them he was changing nominations.

Big brother made them change their nominations until they got the result they wanted probably.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

You could at least have been funny, that's just meh. At best.



Yes, please do ignore why Jay brought the nominations up, because it's not like it's in any way relevant that Aaaron goes behind people's back whenever it suits him and then try to make it out like it's because of his principles. The reason why he mentioned how Aaron was with Faye is because it highlights Aaron's behaviour whenever he's fallen out with someone; he never tries to meet them halfway.

Jay is the bigger man here, no matter what one might think of him otherwise. He reaches out, Aaron does not.

Yep!

The good thing about Jay is you can clearly see his faults, and he's played the game as himself, hidden nothing, his personality will decide if he wins or not. putting cr*p in a freezer is horrendous, yet it proves he's not wearing a mask.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by lucyann

Big brother made them change their nominations until they got the result they wanted probably.

And here we go again. I'm getting nauseous of your running around in circles.

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Aaron's doing so well, it must be really difficult for him

I agree.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lucyann

Big brother made them change their nominations until they got the result they wanted probably.

Seems a bit like that from what faye said. She seemed to be implying that they nominated a fair few times rather than just twice as we were shown

It also took over 2 hours for the nominations according to twitter...so this kind of backs up the above view. Wouldnt take 2 hours for 6 people to nominate twice.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

We have different views on the nom thing, and I have no desire to bring up that discussion in general. It was only relevant in the sense that no matter if one shares Jay's take on that or not, they were similar and recent enough to warrant him bringing them up. If Jay and Louise are shady for not telling Aaron they changed their minds and decided to buy gifts anyway, then Aaron is certainly shady for not telling them he was changing nominations.

Why did he have to tell them.... it was a face-to-face nomination?


The only way that it could possibly have been similar is if BB had accepted their original votes of having everyone up and Aaron had gone into the diary room after noms and changed his decision without telling everyone and then suddenly said to Alex afterwards "Oh, btw I got you off being nominated this week so you're safe. I hope you like my generous gesture, it cost me 500 quid. I've never spent 500 quid on anyone before. Did I mention that it cost me 500 quid."

[Vicky.]

This vid has been removed from facebook and the c5 site for some odd reason

Glad someone uploaded it to youtube.

Sick of them removing vids after putting them up, and never giving a reason.

[Vicky.]

What I dont get about this is...ok jay is apparently trying to stop the animosity in the house. That would be fair comment...however, Aaron hasn't even mentioned this since it happened. It is Jay and Louise that keep bringing it up, and therefore Jay and Louise who are continuing the animosity in the first place.

Also it was Jay that said he swears he will never speak to Aaron again and went a bit mental raging on about it(during the party...you know, the party that he was moaning that AARON was ruining) and swapping the money round, but then after hes had his rant he expects Aaron to jump to what he wants? Reminiscent of Jems attempt to 'build bridges'...she had her say and then expected Aaron to forget it because she had decided enough was enough.

The excuse is that its Aaron causing an atmosphere for the whole house, when this isnt the case. There is no atmosphere between Aaron/Alex/Tom. Only with Aaron/Lou/Jay. If they were really bothered about the atmosphere, they would leave Aaron to do his own thing, and stop ranting on about it in front of Alex and Tom. Both of whom look quite out of place and awkward during this clip. Because other people are still ranting.

Basically, because Aaron didnt do what Jay wanted... Jay has brought it all back up again in front of everyone to try and score points. Thats what I get from this video.

Also, what doesnt make sense at all..is that Jay is trying to rid the house of atmosphere...right...but he had already had this particular convo with Aaron...so why have it again in front of everyone? Because he had backup? In having the same rant yet again, he is continuing it.

It's interesting that when Jay was outside with Aaron alone they were having a calm, reasonable conversation but when there's an audience he becomes confrontational. Very interesting indeed

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What I dont get about this is...ok jay is apparently trying to stop the animosity in the house. That would be fair comment...however, Aaron hasn't even mentioned this since it happened. It is Jay and Louise that keep bringing it up, and therefore Jay and Louise who are continuing the animosity in the first place.

Also it was Jay that said he swears he will never speak to Aaron again and went a bit mental raging on about it(during the party...you know, the party that he was moaning that AARON was ruining) and swapping the money round, but then after hes had his rant he expects Aaron to jump to what he wants? Reminiscent of Jems attempt to 'build bridges'...she had her say and then expected Aaron to forget it because she had decided enough was enough.

The excuse is that its Aaron causing an atmosphere for the whole house, when this isnt the case. There is no atmosphere between Aaron/Alex/Tom. Only with Aaron/Lou/Jay. If they were really bothered about the atmosphere, they would leave Aaron to do his own thing, and stop ranting on about it in front of Alex and Tom. Both of whom look quite out of place and awkward during this clip. Because other people are still ranting.

Basically, because Aaron didnt do what Jay wanted... Jay has brought it all back up again in front of everyone to try and score points. Thats what I get from this video.

Also, what doesnt make sense at all..is that Jay is trying to rid the house of atmosphere...right...but he had already had this particular convo with Aaron...so why have it again in front of everyone? Because he had backup? In having the same rant yet again, he is continuing it.

It's interesting that when Jay was outside with Aaron alone they were having a calm, reasonable conversation but when there's an audience he becomes confrontational. Very interesting indeed

But Aaron not mentioning it is precisely the reason why there's a negative atmosphere, it's because of his refusal to try and talk about the whole thing, he might not be outward and expressive with his anger but it's always there bubbling underneath the surface and that creates an uncomfortable living situation.

We all say things when we're pissed off in the heat of the moment that we don't mean; Aaron has said plenty of times that he's not going to talk to X for the rest of the series, Aden said it about Louise as well, I don't see why it comes under so much scrutiny now that Jay has said it. And he's not really expecting Aaron to "jump to what he wants" by apologising and admitting he was wrong. It's the other way round really, Jay has had to jump to what Aaron wants and swallow his pride because it was the only way of getting Aaron to even utter a word to him

Aaron came in, Jay said he could come and sit with them so they could have a proper discussion because he realised it wasn't just about the two of them, they needed to resolve things as a group and also considering he'd been out there slagging Louise off then she does have a right to defend herself as well tbf. And I think he became more confrontational because Louise was kind of inflaming the whole situation in a way

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

He has a lovely face,don't be silly,calling someones looks is a bit er.................shallow,he hasn't upset me and I am nice

Why do people have to have personal digs? IMO Aaron is stunning,by far the best looking this year,but this is not about looks, i am not that shallow ,its about good, nice, morals,standards and THATS why Aaron is by far the best HM8 this year