[Tom4784]

Pyramid you're going to have to be more specific when you call someone a yob since there's two of them in that video.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Pyramid you're going to have to be more specific when you call someone a yob since there's two of them in that video.

I think the vast majority of fms here know exactly to whom I refer.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Anyone that clapped someone they've just witnessed assault another passenger is beyond pathetic, and if it were down to me I'd have them all charged with plain idiocy and crimes against morality. An applause from a group of people does not shy away from the fact that the guy was assaulted.

They wanted to get Home

[fruit_cake]

big man first undermined the ticket inspector and ruined any chance of him solving it peacefully and respectfully. He then assaulted a person without giving him adequate time to defend his case.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Snowball

I am a moron because I fail to agree with you or fail to see that he was assaulted? Really? It so weakens any argument when one has to resort to personal insults.

I'm finding it difficult to understand how you can 'fail' to see that he was assaulted however, considering under legal definitions I'm confident that he was, and I'm sure you could find such legal definitions. If it's a law there's nothing to 'not see', because of that very reason...it's a law.

The word 'moron' is hardly a personal insult and I'd say you're stretching that definition a bit, but if you really were insulted then I apologise.

EDIT: I used the term in an indirect manner also, if it really is a problem then if a mod tells me I'll (or they can) edit it appropriately, but personally speaking, I don't find that it is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

big man first undermined the ticket inspector and ruined any chance of him solving it peacefully and respectfully. He then assaulted a person without giving him adequate time to defend his case.

He Asked first
then picked the Scam Punk up

[fruit_cake]

Everyone deserves a chance to respond in a decent manner, and not be assaulted by a random stranger imo.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by arista

They wanted to get Home

I'm often in a rush and there are people in front of me blocking my way by walking incredibly slow, however annoying that is and however much I may think to myself (or joke to a friend) that I should or wish I could just throw them out of the way, I don't. And why? Because surprisingly, it's against the law to do so.

Impatience does not justify assault.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by arista

Jack You Stink


You call a Good Older Poster a Moron

And the Mods back you



Stench

Arista stop trying to make it into a big drama, it was being dealt with, so keep to the topic in here instead of having a dig at the mods please.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

He Asked first
then picked the Scam Punk up

Okay comitting a crime is fine as long as you ask first?

[arista]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

Everyone deserves a chance to respond in a decent manner, and not be assaulted by a random stranger imo.

The Lad that Filmed it said on Radio5
it went on for 10mins before the film.


The Punk was Drunk.


You do not have the Full Facts

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Okay comitting a crime is fine as long as you ask first?

No


Dezzy 10mins before that mobile Film started
the Punk was swearing at all


He was a Drunk Punk
Admit that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Arista stop trying to make it into a big drama, it was being dealt with, so keep to the topic in here instead of having a dig at the mods please.

Thank You Josy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm often in a rush and there are people in front of me blocking my way by walking incredibly slow, however annoying that is and however much I may think to myself (or joke to a friend) that I should or wish I could just throw them out of the way, I don't. And why? Because surprisingly, it's against the law to do so.

Impatience does not justify assault.

But again
10mins before the Film Started.


In any Court
This Punk Scammer will also be in trouble

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

No


Dezzy 10mins before that mobile Film started
the Punk was swearing at all


He was a Drunk Punk
Admit that?

So it's okay for a random yob to assault him then? The conductor handled the situation poorly be riling everyone up instead of sticking to procedure. We shouldn't congratulate a fat yob for comittting a needless crime.

People are only on his side because the person he assaulted was a teenager, if he did that to a woman or any other demographic then he'd be Public Enemy Number 1. It's completely hypocritical.

[arista]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

the poll is showing a clear majority against Big Man

No the Poll was only added
by a Mod a few hour or so back.

So Give It Time

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So it's okay for a random yob to assault him then? The conductor handled the situation poorly be riling everyone up instead of sticking to procedure. We shouldn't congratulate a fat yob for comittting a needless crime.

People are only on his side because the person he assaulted was a teenager, if he did that to a woman or any other demographic then he'd be Public Enemy Number 1. It's completely hypocritical.

Maybe another Youth , another time
has pulled a weapon on him.

This is Not a Random thing
thats why Worldwide they like the Big man
as Youths get away with to much

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

big man first undermined the ticket inspector and ruined any chance of him solving it peacefully and respectfully. He then assaulted a person without giving him adequate time to defend his case.

The Big Man asked the conductor if he wanted the yob removed. The conductor replied Yes. How is that undermining the conductor exactly?

I think any chance of it being resolved respectfully flew out the door when the yob began cursing at the Conductor.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

No


Dezzy 10mins before that mobile Film started
the Punk was swearing at all


He was a Drunk Punk
Admit that?

As has already been stated multiple times on here...I dont think anyone is saying the lad was in the right for the way he spoke to the conductor.

But just because he was rude unnecessarily, does not give people free reign to assault him as they chose. If being rude was worthy of assault...half the people I deal with daily at work would be constantly black and blue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As has already been stated multiple times on here...I dont think anyone is saying the lad was in the right for the way he spoke to the conductor.

But just because he was rude unnecessarily, does not give people free reign to assault him as they chose. If being rude was worthy of assault...half the people I deal with daily at work would be constantly black and blue.

Yes Respect to your Job

But this is a Old Man that does not want to be Stabbed

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Respect to your Job

But this is a Old Man that does not want to be Stabbed

Well I dont particularly want to be stabbed either. Nor do I assume that just because someone is young and rude, that they are carrying a knife and going to use it on me

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Maybe another Youth , another time
has pulled a weapon on him.

This is Not a Random thing
thats why Worldwide they like the Big man
as Youths get away with to much

So that gives people the right to assault teenagers? One does something bad so they all deserve a lamping? Nice logic.

Originally Posted by Snowball

The Big Man asked the conductor if he wanted the yob removed. The conductor replied Yes. How is that undermining the conductor exactly?

I think any chance of it being resolved respectfully flew out the door when the yob began cursing at the Conductor.

If the conductor followed procedure then a situation wouldn't have arisen. Instead he chose to rile everyone up by saying it was the lad holding everyone up when it wasn't. That's the long and short of it.

It's quite funny and disturbing that you're more offended by bad language rather then violence and you think that the latter is a reasonable punishment for the former.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

Everyone deserves a chance to respond in a decent manner, and not be assaulted by a random stranger imo.

A chance that the yob was given and several times over....and he himself failed to respond in a decent manner.

Instead he responded by verbally abusing the conductor (despite yob knowing fine well he did not have a ticket as confirmed by his own word in the BBC news interview).

The yob clearly states that he knew he'd the wrong ticket, he then says he'd have bought a ticket if he'd been given the chance in his own words in the interview: why then did he argue with the conductor by telling the conductor that he HAD the correct ticket, ie: "I've *******ing gave you it"...

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So that gives people the right to assault teenagers? One does something bad so they all deserve a lamping? Nice logic.



If the conductor followed procedure then a situation wouldn't have arisen. Instead he chose to rile everyone up by saying it was the lad holding everyone up when it wasn't. That's the long and short of it.

It's quite funny and disturbing that you're more offended by bad language rather then violence and you think that the latter is a reasonable punishment for the former.

If the guy wasnt hell bent on fare dodging and pretending he had the correct ticket - and stopped arguing and cursing away: then the situation would never have arisen.

You may think it's amusing for people to be verbally abused in their place of work - I don't - and I don't care if that is a train conductor, a nurse in A&E - people have a right to carry out their employ and not be verbally abused for it.

[arista]

"So that gives people the right to assault teenagers? One does something bad so they all deserve a lamping? Nice logic."


No its not a Right to do this Dezzy

But in this case more in the World back the Big Man
Thats Logic