[Visage]

Originally Posted by Jords

You find him offensive? Really?

Oh yes, definitely. The whole 'in ya face' thing he does and the 'I'm so talented in everything I do' persona he has going on.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Visage

Oh yes, definitely. The whole 'in ya face' thing he does and the 'I'm so talented in everything I do' persona he has going on.

Id say thats being a bit sensitive towards perceived arrogance, nobody should feel offended by it (even if you detest arrogance) unless they look down on you with it which Andrew definitely does not do. Hes been knocked down a bit in the past, probably had the whole 'youll never be good enough' crisis with people still battering him for 1 reason or another, hes just developed a hard shell which he uses being arrogant of his abilities as a defense mechanism.

Im not a fan of arrogance myself, hate it, but I dunno Ive really warmed to him and the twins. They have redeeming factors for me.

Of course all is my opinion.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Jords

Id say thats being a bit sensitive towards perceived arrogance, nobody should feel offended by it (even if you detest arrogance) unless they look down on you with it which Andrew definitely does not do. Hes been knocked down a bit in the past, probably had the whole 'youll never be good enough' crisis with people still battering him for 1 reason or another, hes just developed a hard shell which he uses being arrogant of his abilities as a defense mechanism.

Im not a fan of arrogance myself, hate it, but I dunno Ive really warmed to him and the twins. They have redeeming factors for me.

Of course all is my opinion.

I do see where you're coming from and last night when he was upset I did have a little sympathy for him. I felt I had been harsh on him, but it didn't last too long, because when he was in the bedroom and made a comment on how he was keeping it real and honest, he then went on to say the housemates who nominated him were two faced. (or words to that effect)

If he looks like he's trying to change his ways and tries to understand why he was nominated, I will at least respect him for that.

He grated on me during his task in BB a few years back and again his ego annoyed me when he took part in 'Come Dine With Me' So I'm not just basing my thoughts on the last few days.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Visage

I do see where you're coming from and last night when he was upset I did have a little sympathy for him. I felt I had been harsh on him, but it didn't last too long, because when he was in the bedroom and made a comment on how he was keeping it real and honest, he then went on to say the housemates who nominated him were two faced. (or words to that effect)

If he looks like he's trying to change his ways and tries to understand why he was nominated, I will at least respect him for that.

He grated on me during his task in BB a few years back and again his ego annoyed me when he took part in 'Come Dine With Me' So I'm not just basing my thoughts on the last few days.

I wanted him to shut up too in the bedroom, didnt do himself any favours but again I think its simply because he saw being nominated as an attack towards his character and ability again and he felt the need to defend. Although the 2-faced comment (picked up on that too) was a bit harsh but tbf you could argue he is right... in Michael's case anyway.

I can see why people might not be a fan but I dont see where hate could stem from really. He is a good guy if anything