[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

There is a big difference between willingly doing it and having them dragged down by a middle aged alcohol on national TV

They have no self respect judging by their past, why should anyone else respect them ?

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They have no self respect judging by their past, why should anyone else respect them ?

because they are human beings

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

because they are human beings

Do you really mean that Chuff?.....if say a lap dancer or a hooker were assaulted..do you think they would deserve it too?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Do you really mean that Chuff?.....if say a lap dancer or a hooker were assaulted..do you think they would deserve it too?

Who was assaulted ? I can assure you ,if BB thought there was a trace of an assault Denise bags would have been packed last night and she would have gone out of the back door, Channel 5 ,like any other channel would not risk the fallout of defending or condoning an assault

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Who was assaulted ? I can assure you ,if BB thought there was a trace of an assault Denise bags would have been packed last night and she would have gone out of the back door, Channel 5 ,like any other channel would not risk the fallout of defending or condoning an assault

No, that's not what I meant...I was using that as a comparison
If the twins pose for magazines or whatever with no clothes..they have given permission for anyone to lay their hands on them or attempt to expose their bodies...you may not approve of them, I understand that, but it doesn't make what Denise did any less wrong....no matter who they were or what they do...it would be wrong. And she's 53, a wife and a mother...she knows right from wrong.
Seriously Chuff, if you were on BB and you were getting drunk every night and you were topless in the jacuzzi with lads young enough to be your sons and you pulled down another H.M's pants and exposed their butt...would you be ashamed of yourself.....honestly......no you wouldn't, because you have too much pride and self respect and sense of appropriate behaviour to ever do it in the first place.......she's in the WRONG Chuff...no ifs, buts or maybes...just plain wrong

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

No, that's not what I meant...I was using that as a comparison
If the twins pose for magazines or whatever with no clothes..they have given permission for anyone to lay their hands on them or attempt to expose their bodies...you may not approve of them, I understand that, but it doesn't make what Denise did any less wrong....no matter who they were or what they do...it would be wrong. And she's 53, a wife and a mother...she knows right from wrong.
Seriously Chuff, if you were on BB and you were getting drunk every night and you were topless in the jacuzzi with lads young enough to be your sons and you pulled down another H.M's pants and exposed their butt...would you be ashamed of yourself.....honestly......no you wouldn't, because you have too much pride and self respect and sense of appropriate behaviour to ever do it in the first place.......she's in the WRONG Chuff...no ifs, buts or maybes...just plain wrong

Hold on Ammi ,they were ALL drinking last night,not just Denise ,yes she showed her tits in jacuzzi ,and maybe it wasnt the best idea shes ever had,but its not a crime, and lets not forget Nicola had her tongue down Frankies throat in the same jacuzzi ,please add IMO as it is your opinion,its not mine or the shows producers or denise would have been removed and you know that as well as I do

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hold on Ammi ,they were ALL drinking last night,not just Denise ,yes she showed her tits in jacuzzi ,and maybe it wasnt the best idea shes ever had,but its not a crime, and lets not forget Nicola had her tongue down Frankies throat in the same jacuzzi ,please add IMO as it is your opinion,its not mine or the shows producers or denise would have been removed and you know that as well as I do

..yes, they were all drinking, but for most of them it stays fun...Denise is the one who always causes the upsets...and it's always the other H.M's that are upset..Michael, KK, Nicola.....Denise is fine, p*ssed off her head, oblivious to anyone else's wishes..just having a laugh, the subject of her 'pranks' aren't laughing of course.....until she sobers up and realises what she's done..then come the tears....imo

[InOne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They have no self respect judging by their past, why should anyone else respect them ?

You really hold a high value to women don't you?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by InOne

You really hold a high value to women don't you?

Ive never been a ho, or made a sex tape, or posed topless, IF I had I would expect the tag I would get for doing so

[InOne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive never been a ho, or made a sex tape, or posed topless, IF I had I would expect the tag I would get for doing so

But they've not displayed any of that in the house. You need to take them as HM's.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by InOne

But they've not displayed any of that in the house. You need to take them as HM's.

Mud sticks

[InOne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Mud sticks

There is no mud. Seen as you've most likely never heard of them before CBB. You just took it upon yourself to get fabulously offended.

[Knitting Nana]

Originally Posted by InOne

But they've not displayed any of that in the house. You need to take them as HM's.

If they were paid extra they would! Thats the whole point - she cant say 'I'm not the kind of girl ....' when she is if someone pays her to.

And its not like her pants were pulled right down fgs.

You cant say 'hey you can see my t*ts and f*nny for money - but remember I'm a good girl'.

She's a hypocrite.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

If they were paid extra they would! Thats the whole point - she cant say 'I'm not the kind of girl ....' when she is if someone pays her to.

And its not like her pants were pulled right down fgs.

You cant say 'hey you can see my t*ts and f*nny for money - but remember I'm a good girl'.

She's a hypocrite.

And you know this how?

And when did she ever say she was a good girl? What does being a good girl have to do with having your pants pulled down by a middle aged alcoholic?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

If they were paid extra they would! Thats the whole point - she cant say 'I'm not the kind of girl ....' when she is if someone pays her to.

And its not like her pants were pulled right down fgs.

You cant say 'hey you can see my t*ts and f*nny for money - but remember I'm a good girl'.

She's a hypocrite.

EXACTLY,IF they had been young innocent girls and IF i thought Denise had done anything wrong(which I or CBB producers DONT)I would have been the 1st to defend them

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive never been a ho, or made a sex tape, or posed topless, IF I had I would expect the tag I would get for doing so

They do say Chuff 'mud sticks' i dont have much respect to be honest for people who use sex to earn money or get themselves 'known'

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

They do say Chuff 'mud sticks' i dont have much respect to be honest for people who use sex to earn money or get themselves 'known'

Me neither, if someone had thrown money on the table they would have done most things, everything has its price as they say, including the twins morals

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by InOne

You really hold a high value to women don't you?

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by spintronic

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

I am a woman,but agree you have to respect yourself before anyone else will respect you

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I am a woman,but agree you have to respect yourself before anyone else will respect you

3 way cycle.

1) Respect yourself.

2) Give respect, where due.

3) & You will gain respect.

Disrespecting yourself (as the twins do) means their ****ed from the start.
Disrespecting everyone (as the twins do) means their ****ed from the first hurdle.
Disrespecting those (who may respect you) means their ****ed from start middle & finish.

All they have left is disrespect.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by spintronic

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

Most can differentiate what people do for a living and the people themselves. Only scum like Kirk and Frankie think it's ok to perv at them and try it on because of what they do for a living.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by InOne

Most can differentiate what people do for a living and the people themselves. Only scum like Kirk and Frankie think it's ok to perv at them and try it on because of what they do for a living.

..the only reason they think Denise is funny is because she acts like one of them......just what every lad wants in a mum eh.......

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the only reason they think Denise is funny is because she acts like one of them......just what every lad wants in a mum eh.......

She is just terribly cringey, like the awkward older woman who gets smashed at parties and tries it on with the young uns lol

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by InOne

She is just terribly cringey, like the awkward older woman who gets smashed at parties and tries it on with the young uns lol

...at least Mrs Robinson had class...not crass

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the only reason they think Denise is funny is because she acts like one of them......just what every lad wants in a mum eh.......

Clever: Very.

1) Every lad defends his mum, & gives you personal information that distinguishes Denise, 'acting very' different from their mum.
2) & To prove Denise is *not* like one of them, they provide *MORE* info, this gives you their preferences, motivations, dislikes & hostilities.

3) What you don't count on, is the fact that Denise, is a beautiful human being.
Any of us would be *PROUD* to call her our "Mums" (That's why so many house mates *DO*)
4) Denise, Gareth, or Frankie, to win in that order Plz. (My Mums watchin. Bless you mum, see u soon)