[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive never been a ho, or made a sex tape, or posed topless, IF I had I would expect the tag I would get for doing so

They do say Chuff 'mud sticks' i dont have much respect to be honest for people who use sex to earn money or get themselves 'known'

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because the CBB producers are seeing it for what it is a PRANK ,if you have any complaint,please take it up with them

you can't just do something and get away with it because you call it a 'prank'. There is a line, Denise crossed it. She was in the wrong, nothing else to it

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by David R

Regardless of what the twins do as a day job (which they actually don't do anymore) they should be treated with the respect and decency you would treat any other women. I bet they have been fighting the profession stereotype all their life and granted they use it to their advantage but that doesnt mean its all that defines them.

No one should try and pull a girls clothes off in a public place yet alone on national TV! If she chooses to do it herself then its up to them. Denise actually got off lightly because she's older and a women but if that had been done by a guy things would have hit the fan big time!

Have they moved out of Hef's Mansion again then? I know they left, but then returned when his wedding was called off.

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by Locke.

There is a big difference between willingly doing it and having them dragged down by a middle aged alcohol on national TV

You stun me Locke.

It's O.K for an 86 year old male pervert to pull their knickers down.

But not a harmless female trying (BADLY) to make friends?

And you want me to believe they take offence @ Denise, but are ***O.K*** with the much **OLDER** pervert.

I think, you must live your whole life looking through rose-tinted glasses.

Because *SERIOUSLY* there is no other excuse for your behaviour.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

They do say Chuff 'mud sticks' i dont have much respect to be honest for people who use sex to earn money or get themselves 'known'

Me neither, if someone had thrown money on the table they would have done most things, everything has its price as they say, including the twins morals

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by spintronic

You stun me Locke.

It's O.K for an 86 year old male pervert to pull their knickers down.

But not a harmless female trying (BADLY) to make friends?

And you want me to believe they take offence @ Denise, but are ***O.K*** with the much **OLDER** pervert.

I think, you must live your whole life looking through rose-tinted glasses.

Because *SERIOUSLY* there is no other excuse for your behaviour.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Who was assaulted ? I can assure you ,if BB thought there was a trace of an assault Denise bags would have been packed last night and she would have gone out of the back door, Channel 5 ,like any other channel would not risk the fallout of defending or condoning an assault

No, that's not what I meant...I was using that as a comparison
If the twins pose for magazines or whatever with no clothes..they have given permission for anyone to lay their hands on them or attempt to expose their bodies...you may not approve of them, I understand that, but it doesn't make what Denise did any less wrong....no matter who they were or what they do...it would be wrong. And she's 53, a wife and a mother...she knows right from wrong.
Seriously Chuff, if you were on BB and you were getting drunk every night and you were topless in the jacuzzi with lads young enough to be your sons and you pulled down another H.M's pants and exposed their butt...would you be ashamed of yourself.....honestly......no you wouldn't, because you have too much pride and self respect and sense of appropriate behaviour to ever do it in the first place.......she's in the WRONG Chuff...no ifs, buts or maybes...just plain wrong

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

you can't just do something and get away with it because you call it a 'prank'. There is a line, Denise crossed it. She was in the wrong, nothing else to it

I didnt call it a PRANK ,Channel 5 have called it a PRANK

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I didnt call it a PRANK ,Channel 5 have called it a PRANK

I was talking about Denise, not you

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

No, that's not what I meant...I was using that as a comparison
If the twins pose for magazines or whatever with no clothes..they have given permission for anyone to lay their hands on them or attempt to expose their bodies...you may not approve of them, I understand that, but it doesn't make what Denise did any less wrong....no matter who they were or what they do...it would be wrong. And she's 53, a wife and a mother...she knows right from wrong.
Seriously Chuff, if you were on BB and you were getting drunk every night and you were topless in the jacuzzi with lads young enough to be your sons and you pulled down another H.M's pants and exposed their butt...would you be ashamed of yourself.....honestly......no you wouldn't, because you have too much pride and self respect and sense of appropriate behaviour to ever do it in the first place.......she's in the WRONG Chuff...no ifs, buts or maybes...just plain wrong

Hold on Ammi ,they were ALL drinking last night,not just Denise ,yes she showed her tits in jacuzzi ,and maybe it wasnt the best idea shes ever had,but its not a crime, and lets not forget Nicola had her tongue down Frankies throat in the same jacuzzi ,please add IMO as it is your opinion,its not mine or the shows producers or denise would have been removed and you know that as well as I do

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by spintronic

Oh Plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: conf:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!



You're a ********n slut.

Who said that? In what context? Do you have a clip?

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by InOne

You really hold a high value to women don't you?

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

I was talking about Denise, not you

Denise never called it anything ,the title of channel 5`s video calls it a PRANK ,please take it up with them

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by spintronic

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

I am a woman,but agree you have to respect yourself before anyone else will respect you

[InOne]

Originally Posted by spintronic

InOne.

*If* your stated goal is for men to have 'High opinions of women'.

Why do you defend 'role models' who have disgraced themselves, degraded themselves & woman in general, have no respect for anyone else, & don't give a **** who respects them? (Because *NOBODY* does)

How can you expect men to respect anyone who's stance is one of disrespecting themselves & others?

Most can differentiate what people do for a living and the people themselves. Only scum like Kirk and Frankie think it's ok to perv at them and try it on because of what they do for a living.

[rusticgal]

Look....a few minutes earlier the other twin was lifting her top up revealing her bra to everyone.... so Denise pulled at the other twins pyjama bottoms revealing her thong....girlie fun...no big deal. Denise apologised but she was hardly exposed FFS..

The twins have deliberatly made a drama out of this...and so have many forum members.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hold on Ammi ,they were ALL drinking last night,not just Denise ,yes she showed her tits in jacuzzi ,and maybe it wasnt the best idea shes ever had,but its not a crime, and lets not forget Nicola had her tongue down Frankies throat in the same jacuzzi ,please add IMO as it is your opinion,its not mine or the shows producers or denise would have been removed and you know that as well as I do

..yes, they were all drinking, but for most of them it stays fun...Denise is the one who always causes the upsets...and it's always the other H.M's that are upset..Michael, KK, Nicola.....Denise is fine, p*ssed off her head, oblivious to anyone else's wishes..just having a laugh, the subject of her 'pranks' aren't laughing of course.....until she sobers up and realises what she's done..then come the tears....imo

[Ketu]

What Denise did was wrong. No normal person wouldnt do it to someone else, especially when she is 53. Alcohol is not an excuse. "Im drunk", buhuuu. Brain should be in head, not in a**. and those who say they Karisa is a playmate she could not get offended or angry. She is human being as we all.
Think about when you walk somewhere where are many people and someone pull your pants down, what would you do? Patting him on the shoulder and said have five? do not think so.
But everyone has their own opinion right...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by InOne

Most can differentiate what people do for a living and the people themselves. Only scum like Kirk and Frankie think it's ok to perv at them and try it on because of what they do for a living.

..the only reason they think Denise is funny is because she acts like one of them......just what every lad wants in a mum eh.......

[InOne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Look....a few minutes earlier the other twin was lifting her top up revealing her bra to everyone.... so Denise pulled at the other twins pyjama bottoms revealing her thong....girlie fun...no big deal. Denise apologised but she was hardly exposed FFS..

The twins have deliberatly made a drama out of this...and so have many forum members.

So that justifies a middle aged alcoholic to pull down her sisters pants?

Great logic

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Look....a few minutes earlier the other twin was lifting her top up revealing her bra to everyone.... so Denise pulled at the other twins pyjama bottoms revealing her thong....girlie fun...no big deal. Denise apologised but she was hardly exposed FFS..

The twins have deliberatly made a drama out of this...and so have many forum members.

She carried on dancing after the incident ,if i had been offended by anyone doing i didnt like Im afraid gut reaction would be to swing around and smack them clean in the molars !! Karissa didnt ,no offence taken until her mind started ticking and hse thought"camera time, cause some bother"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ketu

What Denise did was wrong. No normal person wouldnt do it to someone else, especially when she is 53. Alcohol is not an excuse. "Im drunk", buhuuu. Brain should be in head, not in a**. and those who say they Karisa is a playmate she could not get offended or angry. She is human being as we all.
Think about when you walk somewhere where are many people and someone pull your pants down, what would you do? Patting him on the shoulder and said have five? do not think so.
But everyone has their own opinion right...

...excellent 3rd post...welcome to tibbs

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the only reason they think Denise is funny is because she acts like one of them......just what every lad wants in a mum eh.......

She is just terribly cringey, like the awkward older woman who gets smashed at parties and tries it on with the young uns lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yes, they were all drinking, but for most of them it stays fun...Denise is the one who always causes the upsets...and it's always the other H.M's that are upset..Michael, KK, Nicola.....Denise is fine, p*ssed off her head, oblivious to anyone else's wishes..just having a laugh, the subject of her 'pranks' aren't laughing of course.....until she sobers up and realises what she's done..then come the tears....imo

I doubt she was "off her head" any more so than any of the others,but its ok its Denise

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I am a woman,but agree you have to respect yourself before anyone else will respect you

3 way cycle.

1) Respect yourself.

2) Give respect, where due.

3) & You will gain respect.

Disrespecting yourself (as the twins do) means their ****ed from the start.
Disrespecting everyone (as the twins do) means their ****ed from the first hurdle.
Disrespecting those (who may respect you) means their ****ed from start middle & finish.

All they have left is disrespect.