[Wayne-Kerr]

The straight to DVD actor was wrong, and for anyone to say Denise was in the wrong is either trolling or blinkered by their dislike for her.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

The straight to DVD actor was wrong, and for anyone to say Denise was in the wrong is either trolling or blinkered by their dislike for her.

Yes because opinions don't exist... Right ?

[Wayne-Kerr]

Originally Posted by Visage

Yes because opinions don't exist... Right ?

Yes...?
But opinions can be wrong (hence the blinkered bit) or your opinion could just be that to troll (hence the trolling bit).

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

Yes...?
But opinions can be wrong (hence the blinkered bit) or your opinion could just be that to troll (hence the trolling bit).

My opinion is that Michael was in the wrong. It was rude of him, but I also think he did it because he knew how to wind her up. That doesn't mean I agree with him.

Your comment looked to me like you were saying that anyone who disagreed with this were either blinkered or trolling. Personally I respect other people's opinions, whether I agreed with them or not.

[Ammi]

I watched it twice and didn't notice the 'snoring', just that Michael and the twins seemed to be talking while Denise was being interviewed. However, as they were off camera at the time, it could well be that is what occurred and no, it's not the most mature thing from Michael. But imo, Denise's response by telling him to '**** off' was equally bad. When Denise pulled Karissa's pj's down and there was such an uproar, more about Karissa's over reaction to it than the initial 'incident'...to me this is similar...Michael was silly and Denise's reaction was shabby.
Two wrongs and all that...

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I watched it twice and didn't notice the 'snoring', just that Michael and the twins seemed to be talking while Denise was being interviewed. However, as they were off camera at the time, it could well be that is what occurred and no, it's not the most mature thing from Michael. But imo, Denise's response by telling him to '**** off' was equally bad. When Denise pulled Karissa's pj's down and there was such an uproar, more about Karissa's over reaction to it than the initial 'incident'...to me this is similar...Michael was silly and Denise's reaction was shabby.
Two wrongs and all that...

Valid points Ammi. I have been guilty of thinking the twins overreacted with Denise, but didn't think the same when Denise overacted.




I will accept my whipping now....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Visage

Valid points Ammi. I have been guilty of thinking the twins overreacted with Denise, but didn't think the same when Denise overacted.




I will accept my whipping now....

Oooo..I like a good whipping

[Wayne-Kerr]

Originally Posted by Visage

My opinion is that Michael was in the wrong. It was rude of him, but I also think he did it because he knew how to wind her up. That doesn't mean I agree with him.

Your comment looked to me like you were saying that anyone who disagreed with this were either blinkered or trolling. Personally I respect other people's opinions, whether I agreed with them or not.

Yeah, my point was that there is no possible way in which Michael wasn't in the wrong, but people on here seem to be blaming Denise. So, blinkered or trolling is my opinion on them.

And of course I respect opinions, but not when they're so obviously wrong in this case.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

Yeah, my point was that there is no possible way in which Michael wasn't in the wrong, but people on here seem to be blaming Denise. So, blinkered or trolling is my opinion on them.

And of course I respect opinions, but not when they're so obviously wrong in this case.

There is right on wrong on both sides..it's all down to what people's opinion is as to where the bigger portion of the blame is..that is why it's an opinion

[Wayne-Kerr]

Originally Posted by Ammi

There is right on wrong on both sides..it's all down to what people's opinion is as to where the bigger portion of the blame is..that is why it's an opinion

As I said in the post you quoted, I was talking about those who were blaming Denise, when it would be pretty obvious to anyone who didn't favour either of them (or watching without seeing the series), that Michael was incredibly rude and when asked to stop continued.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

Yeah, my point was that there is no possible way in which Michael wasn't in the wrong, but people on here seem to be blaming Denise. So, blinkered or trolling is my opinion on them.

And of course I respect opinions, but not when they're so obviously wrong in this case.

This. It really isn't a matter of opinion on this issue.

It's not something that can be debated, say like immigration where there's many sides to the coin, this is a one-sided issue that isn't up for discussion.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This. It really isn't a matter of opinion on this issue.

It's not something that can be debated, say like immigration where there's many sides to the coin, this is a one-sided issue that isn't up for discussion.

70+ posts proves you are wrong.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

Yeah, my point was that there is no possible way in which Michael wasn't in the wrong, but people on here seem to be blaming Denise. So, blinkered or trolling is my opinion on them.

And of course I respect opinions, but not when they're so obviously wrong in this case.

yeah, long term posters are clearly trolling because they offer a different pov from your own.

Clearly you don't respect others' opinions...........

[calyman]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

The straight to DVD actor was wrong, and for anyone to say Denise was in the wrong is either trolling or blinkered by their dislike for her.

What were you saying about trolling and being blinkered by dislike of (in this case, Michael)?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Wayne-Kerr

The straight to DVD actor was wrong, and for anyone to say Denise was in the wrong is either trolling or blinkered by their dislike for her.

I was going to go on about Madsen and his film history, and the Tarantino connection and all the rest of it... then I noticed the poster's name and realised I didn't have to.