[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

No they would not, but she should not pretend that she is not emotionally disturbed when she clearly is: and clearly has very little control over her life: to the point that she lies and manipulates. That is my view on her.

Yes, I will discuss her without your permission, thus clearly it is fine for me to do so if I wish.

You are entitled to your opinion on what you personally feel may be over-board. As others are, to the contrary.

Please don't try and make out I have/haven't given you permission to talk about Denise. Read my post again if you have to, there is no need to make an issue about something whoch isn't needed. And if she is hiding from her 'true' self, why would that be a bad thing for you. If what you say is right, maybe it's because she doesn't want to face up to what she really is. It isn't called lying, its called convincing yourself. Maby do it on a day-to-day basis. Now, whilst this rant has been fun, Im off to bed as I am knackered out