Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-02-2012, 04:29 AM #76
Jords's Avatar
Jords Jords is offline
Focus
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cambs/Lincs
Posts: 48,859

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
DOI 2018: Kem Cetinay


Jords Jords is offline
Focus
Jords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cambs/Lincs
Posts: 48,859

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
DOI 2018: Kem Cetinay


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
and? It's still his responsibility to make sure she's not getting into any trouble. This is why so many kids grow up dysfunctional, they think as soon as they hit 15-16 they're adults, when quite simply, they're not, they're still irrational and emotionally unstable until they actually mature at around 19-21.
And the best way people learn is from experiences and mistakes. Not by being dramatically forced - only makes people rebel against it and be more reluctant.
__________________


Jords is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 04:51 AM #77
Scarlett.'s Avatar
Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,695

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Richard
BB2024: Lily


Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
Scarlett.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,695

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Richard
BB2024: Lily


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jords View Post
And the best way people learn is from experiences and mistakes. Not by being dramatically forced - only makes people rebel against it and be more reluctant.
So we just let kids run wild, so that they learn from mistakes? No matter how dangerous and stupid they are? That doesn't sound like parenting.
Scarlett. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 04:51 AM #78
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

inone thats an odd thing to say...care to elaborate?
Kizzy is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 05:16 AM #79
Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,913


Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,913


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
-wants to shoot a gun now-

edit: not at you jessica LOL, just in general
I got to hold a gun once, when I got a tour of a police station, I went with a youth club thing and I pointed it at the lady in charge, and she started covering her face with her hand and ducking, as if the gun was loaded, there was police everywhere too, I didn't even know it was illegal to point a gun at someone..

Last edited by Jessica.; 11-02-2012 at 05:16 AM.
Jessica. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 05:31 AM #80
Novo's Avatar
Novo Novo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: England
Posts: 58,822

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Chad Johnson
BB14: Dexter


Novo Novo is offline
Senior Member
Novo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: England
Posts: 58,822

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Chad Johnson
BB14: Dexter


Default

^
__________________


"She was left for dead on the sands of Tatooine, as was I. But fate sometimes steps in to rescue the wretched."
Novo is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 05:33 AM #81
Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,913


Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,913


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Novo View Post
^
Jessica. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 05:40 AM #82
nicole_burks's Avatar
nicole_burks nicole_burks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 705
nicole_burks nicole_burks is offline
Senior Member
nicole_burks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 705
Default

I don't think it's disgusting tbh.


I would never post something on facebook like that especially since my parents have a facebook.
Her dad works for an IT company it's pretty obvious she's going to get caught. She's pretty dumb for posting something like that on fb, imo.
__________________
Spoiler:

nicole_burks is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 07:13 AM #83
SharkAttack's Avatar
SharkAttack SharkAttack is offline
Half-Wit Zeus
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,223

Favourites (more):
BBUSA17: Vanessa
BBUSA15: Elissa
SharkAttack SharkAttack is offline
Half-Wit Zeus
SharkAttack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,223

Favourites (more):
BBUSA17: Vanessa
BBUSA15: Elissa
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessica. View Post
I got to hold a gun once, when I got a tour of a police station, I went with a youth club thing and I pointed it at the lady in charge, and she started covering her face with her hand and ducking, as if the gun was loaded, there was police everywhere too, I didn't even know it was illegal to point a gun at someone..
__________________

<( -'.'- )>

SharkAttack is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 08:04 AM #84
lostalex's Avatar
lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
lostalex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


Default

The girl has a housekeeper and she said "you pay someone to do it anyway, why should i have to do any chores?" That is repulsive. Sounds like the epitome of spoiled.
__________________
Don't be afraid to be weak.

Last edited by lostalex; 11-02-2012 at 08:05 AM.
lostalex is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 09:06 AM #85
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
I'd be well pissed off if one of my kids wrote that **** about me on FB as well, she sounds like a spoilt brat, why is it ok for her to bad mouth him like that but it's not ok for him to defend himself? Parents have feelings too
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy View Post
Its not cyber bullying at all, she made her disrespectful rant public by posting it on fb and so did he, I agree he could have dealt with it better than that but it's clearly not bullying of any kind.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
Wouldn't agree with his methods but it's understandable. I would be pissed off too
Quote:
Originally Posted by ukturtle View Post
Legend! Absolute legend! She sounds like a right, spoilt little bitch. That should put her back into her place.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl View Post
I gotta admire how he doesn't pussy-foot around anything..he told her if she ****ed up and posted anything about them on her facebook again he would shoot her laptop...she posted he shot it..what a guy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
No it's disgraceful she's treating her father like that. He puts food on her table, and buys her a laptop and spends money upgrading it, and she can't even do chores? Good on him.

Agree with every single one of these comments.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jords View Post
Shes 15 not 8.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jords View Post
All the YT comments are agreeing with him, idiots
Someone is not an idiot simply because you do not agree with them. They don't share your opinion - that does not make anyone an idiot.

Yes, she is 15. Still a child. Still living under her father's roof. Still being provided with luxury items by her father, and being a spoiled selfish self centred, brat - like far too many teenagers these days unfortunately. His house, his rules - if she doesn't like it .... she can leave, roam the streets and fend for herself. Let's see how much she moans then.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 09:46 AM #86
Me. I Am Salman Me. I Am Salman is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 23,066


Me. I Am Salman Me. I Am Salman is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 23,066


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramid* View Post
Agree with every single one of these comments.





Someone is not an idiot simply because you do not agree with them. They don't share your opinion - that does not make anyone an idiot.

Yes, she is 15. Still a child. Still living under her father's roof. Still being provided with luxury items by her father, and being a spoiled selfish self centred, brat - like far too many teenagers these days unfortunately. His house, his rules - if she doesn't like it .... she can leave, roam the streets and fend for herself. Let's see how much she moans then.
It's not like she is acting so spoilt. Wow she posted a facebook status. Is that it????? Can't anyone be free to just vent their feelings? I'm sure she still gets on with her chores. We all have to do things we don't like and we are allowed to speak our mind. Its our opinion for fluff sake. Does her dad expect to be all happy daisy with it?

Last edited by Me. I Am Salman; 11-02-2012 at 09:51 AM.
Me. I Am Salman is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:12 AM #87
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salman! View Post
It's not like she is acting so spoilt. Wow she posted a facebook status. Is that it????? Can't anyone be free to just vent their feelings? I'm sure she still gets on with her chores. We all have to do things we don't like and we are allowed to speak our mind. Its our opinion for fluff sake. Does her dad expect to be all happy daisy with it?
I guess you didn't actually listen to the difference between her gross exaggerations, and her father's side of the story........ or listen to the vile comments she made about the adults in her life.

You seem to miss the fact that it is his house, his rules. She learns to abide by them or she can walk.

She got smart mouthed again, she didn't learn from previous same behaviour - the father made sure she he wouldn't allow her access again to the equipment that he paid for. Good for him. She will learn... eventually, but she's chosing the hard route for herself.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:17 AM #88
Roy Mars III's Avatar
Roy Mars III Roy Mars III is offline
,
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 12,923

Favourites:
BBUSA16: Derrick


Roy Mars III Roy Mars III is offline
,
Roy Mars III's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 12,923

Favourites:
BBUSA16: Derrick


Default

Some people just need to learn respect. What he did was probably drastic and over the top but I can understand it. If I had some kid I just bought a bunch of new stuff for badmouthing me because I make her wash the dishes I'd be pretty pissed to
__________________
...
Roy Mars III is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:22 AM #89
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

He should try acting like a 'normal' parent if he wants to get the message across. Even if he didn't mean it, she has now got 1000's of death threats just because of a stupid stunt caused by a 'mature, loving parent'.
Jake. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:24 AM #90
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH95 View Post
He should try acting like a 'normal' parent if he wants to get the message across. Even if he didn't mean it, she has now got 1000's of death threats just because of a stupid stunt caused by a 'mature, loving parent'.
It wouldn't have happened if she'd not been the spoilt jumped up brat that she was - and if she'd paid heed to his warning. After all, it wasn't the first time she'd done this.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:26 AM #91
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramid* View Post
It wouldn't have happened if she'd not been the spoilt jumped up brat that she was - and if she'd paid heed to his warning. After all, it wasn't the first time she'd done this.
I can admit I have acted spoilt at times... doesn't mean that my dad throws my phone at a brick wall. Noone knows the ins and outs of their relationship. He could treat her like sh*t which causes her to complain. We just don't know.
Jake. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:28 AM #92
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH95 View Post
I can admit I have acted spoilt at times... doesn't mean that my dad throws my phone at a brick wall. Noone knows the ins and outs of their relationship. He could treat her like sh*t which causes her to complain. We just don't know.

I doubt he treats her like sh*t. Otherwise he would not be spending his hard earned money buying her luxury items, laptops, cameras, purchasing upgrades and spending his own time upgrading ........ not quite the actions of a parent who treats their kid like sh*t really.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:35 AM #93
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramid* View Post
I doubt he treats her like sh*t. Otherwise he would not be spending his hard earned money buying her luxury items, laptops, cameras, purchasing upgrades and spending his own time upgrading ........ not quite the actions of a parent who treats their kid like sh*t really.
What about the actions of uploading a video of him hulmiliating her for the world to see, where because of this she has death threats pouring out of her ears? Are they the actions a good parent?
Jake. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:39 AM #94
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH95 View Post
What about the actions of uploading a video of him hulmiliating her for the world to see, where because of this she has death threats pouring out of her ears? Are they the actions a good parent?
did you listen to the reasons he gave for him making that decision to deal with it in the way he did? I did, and yes, some may find it OTT, personally I didn't. It looked and sounded like a father who had been pushed to the limits by a facetious, foul mouthed, spoiled child.

I'd far rather see that happening than the parent lifting their hands to the child.

Last edited by Pyramid*; 11-02-2012 at 10:39 AM.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:43 AM #95
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramid* View Post
did you listen to the reasons he gave for him making that decision to deal with it in the way he did? I did, and yes, some may find it OTT, personally I didn't. It looked and sounded like a father who had been pushed to the limits by a facetious, foul mouthed, spoiled child.

I'd far rather see that happening than the parent lifting their hands to the child.
But we live in a world were most realise that it is wrong to use violence against their kids anyways. I get why he is pis*ed. I will never deem his reaction as acceptable
Jake. is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:46 AM #96
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH95 View Post
But we live in a world were most realise that it is wrong to use violence against their kids anyways. I get why he is pis*ed. I will never deem his reaction as acceptable
and I do. That's it in a nutshell.
Pyramid* is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:57 AM #97
Ammi's Avatar
Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 81,074


Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
Ammi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 81,074


Default

I've just watched the video...firstly I would have liked to have known more about the 'previous incident' and how it was handled by the parents, but as I don't....
I'm guessing, as dad had spent time and money on the laptop only the previous day, the daughter had posted this 'letter' before he did this......I would guess...when she was in a p*ssy mood' about something involving her parents.....that's hurtful to the parents..but...it's normal...it happens....It probably wouldn't be healthy for me to know what my kids have said about me everytime I've p*ssed them off...and I don't think it would be a good indication of what their feelings were in general. Teenagers can 'hit out' against the world sometimes...It's just a kneejerk reaction to how they're feeling at that moment.
...anyway, what she said was hurtful, spiteful, spoiled and ungrateful....yes....but in my opinion, dad totally invalidated all of this with his 'retaliation'.....two wrongs do not make a right....and he is the adult here. Imo, a young adult will never respond to being told they are disrespectful, lazy, spoiled, ungrateful etc.......but they can respond to you sitting them down LIKE AN ADULT and explaining, calmly, why you feel their actions are unacceptable and how the effects hurt others..including the 'cleaning lady'.
Tbh....he has just wiped out any sympathy I SHOULD feel for him
...I'll edit that...any sympathy I would have liked to have felt
__________________

Last edited by Ammi; 11-02-2012 at 10:58 AM.
Ammi is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:58 AM #98
Me. I Am Salman Me. I Am Salman is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 23,066


Me. I Am Salman Me. I Am Salman is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 23,066


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH95 View Post
He should try acting like a 'normal' parent if he wants to get the message across. Even if he didn't mean it, she has now got 1000's of death threats just because of a stupid stunt caused by a 'mature, loving parent'.
Exactly, he was just seeking attention. If he knows so much about computers then he would know that this would be prone to becoming viral and resulting into deaththreats. The attention seeker. Parenting skills of a doughnut.

Last edited by Me. I Am Salman; 11-02-2012 at 10:59 AM.
Me. I Am Salman is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 11:03 AM #99
Ammi's Avatar
Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 81,074


Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
Ammi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 81,074


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salman! View Post
Exactly, he was just seeking attention. If he knows so much about computers then he would know that this would be prone to becoming viral and resulting into deaththreats. The attention seeker. Parenting skills of a doughnut.
Salman, I'm missing something here...where is the 'death threat' info coming from
__________________
Ammi is offline  
Old 11-02-2012, 11:05 AM #100
Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Pyramid* Pyramid* is offline
Pyramid*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,528


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi View Post
I've just watched the video...firstly I would have liked to have known more about the 'previous incident' and how it was handled by the parents, but as I don't....
I'm guessing, as dad had spent time and money on the laptop only the previous day, the daughter had posted this 'letter' before he did this......I would guess...when she was in a p*ssy mood' about something involving her parents.....that's hurtful to the parents..but...it's normal...it happens....It probably wouldn't be healthy for me to know what my kids have said about me everytime I've p*ssed them off...and I don't think it would be a good indication of what their feelings were in general. Teenagers can 'hit out' against the world sometimes...It's just a kneejerk reaction to how they're feeling at that moment.
...anyway, what she said was hurtful, spiteful, spoiled and ungrateful....yes....but in my opinion, dad totally invalidated all of this with his 'retaliation'.....two wrongs do not make a right....and he is the adult here. Imo, a young adult will never respond to being told they are disrespectful, lazy, spoiled, ungrateful etc.......but they can respond to you sitting them down LIKE AN ADULT and explaining, calmly, why you feel their actions are unacceptable and how the effects hurt others..including the 'cleaning lady'.
Tbh....he has just wiped out any sympathy I SHOULD feel for him
...I'll edit that...any sympathy I would have liked to have felt
Now.... given all of what you say above: that's very true -because we don't know how the previous behaviour was dealt with so I can understand why you're saying what you are, and why you feel the father was in the wrong.

Personally: I'm taking the view that since father said she'd done this before to the point that she had been grounded, had her pc taken away and had her mobile taken away: I'm inclined to take the view that the usual punishments simply are not having any real effect (otherwise she'd not have written what she did again on FB) - hence the reason that I agree with the father.
Pyramid* is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
daughter, facebook, father, posts, punishment, video


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:27 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts