[bbfan1991]

Absolutely disgusting, what a vile thing to do and I hope this woman suffers in jail for doing that to a poor baby who cannot defend itself.

To think that there are some people out there who want children but cannot have them is sad and yet there are people like her who have them, grr makes my blood boil.

[Sam:)]

Shes a ****ing,vile, discusting bitch, honestly would not give a **** if she was painfully slowly dying. The noise itself is upsetting, everytime the baby goes to stand up she beats it! I hope to god she gets beaten to death when she gets out of prison.

[thejunction]

Originally Posted by Redway

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

what on earth could any baby do to deserve that kind of punishment?! let alone what anyone else could do to deserve that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen
..and the older siblings witnessed it..one seemed to be just eating crisps or something
..I have no words to describe what that woman is

I was absolutely stunned Ammi,I actually thought NO ,it must be a set up then she slapped his head,it really upset me,how cruel,I do hope that baby will not be subject to her parenting againI really want to punch her.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Redway

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

Are you kidding,she wouldn't leave him alone she just kept wacking him,the kid was sobbing,where is your compassion,how could a baby deserve that,of course it was an unprovoked attack,given the age of the child,how could it not be.Shocked you think that is ok.He's EIGHT months old FFS.

[Redway]

Above posts: changed my mind. I realised I was *bitterly* wrong and I will gladly admit that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Redway

Above posts: changed my mind. I realised I was *bitterly* wrong and I will gladly admit that.

Kudos to you Redway,not many would go back on their opinion,maybe you didn't watch the vid properly first time round

[Glenn.]

If we've learned one thing today, it's not to let Redway babysit.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I would like to know who was standing filming it

The actual incident is shocking enough but for someone to be standing there filming the attack is just plain sick.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Glenn

If we've learned one thing today, it's not to let Redway babysit.

now that was funny

[Kizzy]

No it wasen't..

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Redway

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

Sorry, but what? How can a baby provoke a parent? By crying? I hope to god you never have children if you think that is acceptable, that is a disgusting way of thinking.

[King Gizzard]

Can't bring myself to even watch it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

now that was funny

I have to admit kazanne,I smiled at Glenn's comment too.
I like Redway a lot though and really massive credit to him for re-thinking his original stance on this one,shows the good guy he is and that he is willing to listen to others and take on board what they say.That is a good thing in people.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by kizzy

No it wasen't..

You're spelling is though :|

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Salman!

You're spelling is though :|

*we all laugh*

[Jack_]

From what I've seen the woman needs serious, serious help. And fast. People that get kicks out of this sort of stuff are a serious threat to not only children, but the rest of society. Not only is 18 months not sufficient but I sincerely hope her mental state is being addressed and looked into, because whenever she is inevitably released, if she hasn't received any help, I have no doubt that she'll still be a threat.

Disgusting nonetheless though. It's just...barbaric and beyond words. I hope the kid is alright and won't be too scarred by what's such a vile incident.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Salman!

You're spelling is though :|

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I noticed that too

[iRyan]

This really disturbed me and I feel like crying now....

[Jords]

I wasnt gonna watch it but I think seeing things like this really hits hard just how sick the world can be and encourages you to be the uttermost opposite of it all.

Shes a monster. And I have a horrible feeling she enjoyed it. The baby was quieting down at the end and she began hitting them once more. Disgusting and 18 months definitely isnt enough. The woman filming is equally sick imo also and I hope shes punished.

Hope the kiddy gets adopted into a loving family. Genuinely made me feel depressed.

And Redway, wtf man?

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Redway

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

[Ammi]

..I think I understand what you were trying to say Redway..I might not agree with it but I think I understand...
..I don't think it came out as how you meant it though so people's responses were never going to be good..because what that woman did to that baby is shocking and it's hard not to get emotive about something like that..

..anyway age of the baby aside..my opinion is that a child could never 'provoke' an adult into behaving in that way..the child holds no responsibility whatsoever for the low tolerance or reaction of adults....

..but at least I do know where you're coming from..even if I don't agree

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Redway

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

Yellow friends..... christ, is that how you define those who are Oriental or have Far Eastern heritage.

As for you thinking it is not wrong for an adult to deliberately hit any baby/toddler/child around the head ....Jesus... I've read some bizarre comments on this forum, but this probably beats them all.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Salman!

You're spelling is though :|

*your*