[BBDodge]

Whining about the forum is as bad as whining about the show.

[davidrox2010]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

Whining about the forum is as bad as whining about the show.

This!

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by dizzy bint

Yes, whine, whine, whine, it's a job to find a single post on any forum that's positive at the moment. This year's BB hasn't even started and is already being slated.

..No it isn't? We're slating last year's and hoping for the best this year.

[BBDodge]

So far all we know for sure is the eye.

So there's nothing else to whine about.

That will change!

[Scotty07]

Yes all of us real loyal fans should be constantly happy with what's happened to Big Brother and praise them for taking live feed away and not giving us more epic suprise eviction nights anymore like the legendary ones from BB5/BB6/BB9.

I have praised the show plenty enough for the TV entertainment it's given me since the year 2000 and for example finally seeing sense and changing it to vote to save/cheap facebook voting/finally giving me a truly epic deserving winner in Aaron., so I am equally entitled to moan about the show if there are things I don't like, like the recent apalling laziness with the same BB11 shaped house.

[rSlavenx]

I agree, some people are just never happy and pick faults in everything C5 do, I admit the show needs tweaking but Channel 5 have been more responsive to the fans than Channel 4 ever were.

I think 'Vote to Save' is a good example, I remember so many people begging for it to be changed from 'Vote to Evict' to 'Vote to Save' and now its changed it seems everyone is still unhappy.

Also, there are things that just aren't going to change so people would be as well to stop constantly posting the same things about the same problems i.e Brian presenting.

[BBDodge]

But was vote to save down to C5 or the new production team?

All 5 seem to have done is axe the live feed and chop BB down to 10 weeks to make room for more CBB. They seem to be responsible for the online stuff too, which left a lot to be desired.

Everything else I would lay at the hands of the production team, including the manic editing style, choice of housemates, tasks and twists. There's another new creative director this year (Dennis O'Connor replacing Gavin Henderson) so some of that may change again.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by InOne

All there seems to be is people comparing the new to old, or getting at the presenter, or the production, or the crowd. I don't think it's been that bad with Ch5. The first one wasn't great, but the normal one was pretty good and the celeb one was even better than that. They even cut down on the editing as well, so felt like "old" BB at times.

BB has to listen to what we want - we can not have air heads again with no conversation other then the 3 letter word. and BB has to give us something to watch ie hidden tasks and spice things up with tricks and games - i remember when glen and nikki and ashlyn were in there - now that is what i call BB.

[dizzy bint]

Originally Posted by WATERHOG

BB has to listen to what we want - we can not have air heads again with no conversation other then the 3 letter word. and BB has to give us something to watch ie hidden tasks and spice things up with tricks and games - i remember when glen and nikki and ashlyn were in there - now that is what i call BB.

Personally I thought that was an awful series and I turned off after two weeks.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Scotty07

Yes all of us real loyal fans should be constantly happy with what's happened to Big Brother and praise them for taking live feed away and not giving us more epic suprise eviction nights anymore like the legendary ones from BB5/BB6/BB9.

I have praised the show plenty enough for the TV entertainment it's given me since the year 2000 and for example finally seeing sense and changing it to vote to save/cheap facebook voting/finally giving me a truly epic deserving winner in Aaron., so I am equally entitled to moan about the show if there are things I don't like, like the recent apalling laziness with the same BB11 shaped house.

Couldn't agree more to be honest: praise and enjoy the good time and the good show: and be critical of the bad time and the poorer shows. Horses for courses and all that.

[Scotty07]

Originally Posted by dizzy bint

Personally I thought that was an awful series and I turned off after two weeks.

Only BB4 and BB8 are worse than the overrated BB7 imo. It did have a few great housemates and a few epic eviction nights, but overall I did find that series really hard work to stick with I can tell you.

The best housemate imo Shabaz was gone way too early and then that horrible arrogant man called Sezer went too soon when Lea should have gone instead for the good of the series. Then Grace went not too long after and we were left with too many bores like Lea, Pete, Glyn, Jennie and Mikey who all made painfully boring live feed.