[sarakss]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well i disagree with you. I think everyone hides certain things in the beginnings of a relationship. To me it's no different then a woman wearing loads of makeup or putting chicken fillets in their bras to make their breasts look bigger. Everyone hides certain things to be more attractive to people at the start. He never lied about being a man because he is a man.

It would be lying if he pretended to have a penis or specifically, but i don't think he did lie about having a penis. We all put on a facade when we are dating i think, and clearly his wife doesn't feel like she was duped because they are still together. So if she doesn't feel lied to then who are you to say she was lied to?

Fair enough to disagree with me, but I stand behind my opinion. If I started dating a man and found out later he was a biological woman, that lying by omission is far more severe than if he stuffed his pants to make himself appear well-endowed.

I think your example of using make-up or stuffing bras does not help with your own argument because you're confirming that he's in fact taking drastic steps to make himself appear to be who he's not. You talk about women stuffing their bras, but Luke had his breasts removed. He's done everything to make himself appear to be someone he's naturally not. He's deceiving people from the start and he knows he is which is why he admits he has a secret.

We give each other the benefit of the doubt by assuming a person is the way they present themselves. He has gone through extraordinary lengths to appear to be someone he's really not. He's legally a man, but that's just paperwork. We all know he's not.

Men have penises, men can produce sperm. If Luke gets a penis, it's going to be done through surgery by taking hormones. He will never be able to produce sperm. He can be very advanced scientifically, but there are some occasions where nature will trump science.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by sarakss

Actually he did. She assumed he was a man because he made himself appear to be a man. He changed his body, voice, name, etc. Luke knows when he gets into a relationship with people, he's hiding vital things about himself. It's difficult because most of us don't have to worry about having to reveal our real gender to others; he does.


Even if the law says you can now be a man, it doesn't mean you really are. Biologically, Luke is a woman. Luke has a vagina, not a penis. If Luke stops taking his meds, he'll go back to being a woman. We, as a society, make accommodations for people that's why as much as we know Luke is biologically a woman, we refer to Luke as him, not her.


As much as he's entitled to live his life in a body that's comfortable for him, let's not forget he has to hide things about himself. Even his employer did not know he was a woman until the series started.

Are you a male?

[Marc]

calm down LOL

[Vicky.]

Hmm. I dont understand where it could have gone, unless it was left overnight and just kinda...disintergrated or something

[Marc]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Yes, I hide the kids easter eggs there too.....

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hmm. I dont understand where it could have gone, unless it was left overnight and just kinda...disintergrated or something

Vicky what you don't understand is that some women have a acidic vaginas and unless kept happy they can shoot their venom out at everybody.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marc

Vicky what you don't understand is that some women have a acidic vaginas.

Even then it wouldnt completely disappear though, she would be all...sticky and with bits of crumbs inside

This is giving me horrific mental images

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Even then it wouldnt completely disappear though, she would be all...sticky and with bits of crumbs inside

This is giving me horrific mental images

Crumby vaginas

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hmm. I dont understand where it could have gone, unless it was left overnight and just kinda...disintergrated or something

We are assuming of course that the wrapper was off .

[Marc]

Originally Posted by CherieB

We are assuming of course that the wrapper was off .

Kept it in her for a rainy day.

[Josy]

This thread is actually making me feel queasy

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Josy

This thread is actually making me feel queasy

Why not have a twix? Settle your stomach

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Marc

Why not have a twix? Settle your stomach

I don't think I will ever eat a twix again

[sampvt]

He said he lost A twix. Singular, If he had not unwrapped it that would be a gold double finger loss and somewhat uncomfortable.

[Vicky.]

Depends how experienced she was tbh. A double might not have touched the sides

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Depends how experienced she was tbh. A double might not have touched the sides

Yeah it might have been as baggy as a clowns pocket

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Depends how experienced she was tbh. A double might not have touched the sides

If it did, you might need to give her a nudge like those vending machines.

I hate when it gets stuck on it's way out

[Vicky.]

I actually quite fancy a twix right now

[Marc]

It's probably not the first brown finger to come out of her tbh

[Josy]

Omg

[Kizzy]

She went to the doctors and the nurse found this...

Thankyou very much for doing my smear test....

[Marc]

Imagine it if was a Toblerone

[lostalex]

I know many women like putting food products up the no-no place. I think most girls experiment with vegetables when they are younger.

[sarakss]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I know many women like putting food products up the no-no place. I think most girls experiment with vegetables when they are younger.

Some women put yogurt in there as well... to , em, balance things out. LOL

[Marc]

What kind of people do you know?! LOL

[Vicky.]