[Livia]

Originally Posted by jet

So he actually kills animals? I haven't heard of this. Can someone give me the details?

Judging on his rifle... rats, if he's lucky.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Saigon1

It might not be illegal but if you have morals you should see the problem. Killing for sport is not a big deal to you?

Originally Posted by Apple202

Bringing back trophies from Africa? So you have no problem with him shooting one of the Big 5 for sport?

As long as they're not endangered species and he isn't poaching then nah I'm not gonna take some moral highground over it even though I wouldn't do it myself, it can even benefit the populations of some big game

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd like to give them some rules: Here's a spear and a hunting knife... off you go... it gives the animal a fighting chance and whatever you kill you got fair and square. I have a feeling that hunting wouldn't be such an attractive proposition if they had to get up close - which takes balls, instead of firing a gun from hundreds of metres away - which doesn't.

This, they act like such hard men, when they don't even go near the animal

[R0B1S]

Originally Posted by Apple202

Killing animals for food is different than for sport.

Actually it isn't. If you are bothered by animals being killed then you would never say anything like this.

[Saigon1]

Originally Posted by R0B1S

Who are you to decide what is right or wrong for anybody else? You thinking it's wrong doesn't make it wrong.

Well you tell me how it is justifiable to kill for fun? If you think that killing for your own self gratification isn't wrong it says a lot about you as a person then.

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by R0B1S

Actually it isn't. If you are bothered by animals being killed then you would never say anything like this.

lol I'm vegetarian so fail from you. I just understand there's a difference between killing animals for consumption, than for sport, even if I support neither.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by R0B1S

Actually it isn't. If you are bothered by animals being killed then you would never say anything like this.

I think this is a valid point, eating meat isn't a necessity any more after all and a lot of the animals we eat everyday live far worse lives than hunted animals do

[Livia]

Originally Posted by R0B1S

Actually it isn't. If you are bothered by animals being killed then you would never say anything like this.

Actually... it is very different. And actually... if you know anything about it at all you'd realise how silly your comment is.

[Saigon1]

Originally Posted by R0B1S

Actually it isn't. If you are bothered by animals being killed then you would never say anything like this.

Actually it is....1 is a basic human need for survival, the other is killing for no reason other than pleasure.

[Saigon1]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think this is a valid point, eating meat isn't a necessity any more after all and a lot of the animals we eat everyday live far worse lives than hunted animals do

Humans are omnivores, we are meant to eat meat. Eating meat to sustain yourself is diffrent from killing for fun. The fact that someone gets pleasure out of killing another living creature is quite worrying if you ask me.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think this is a valid point, eating meat isn't a necessity any more after all and a lot of the animals we eat everyday live far worse lives than hunted animals do

That is just not true MTVN. While meat-eating is not a necessity, we are omnivores, built to eat meat, and it's a major source of protein. The standards of animal care in the UK are amongst the best in Europe. More and more people are buying Freedom Food, organically reared and free-range meat... More and more people are turning away from foreign-raised meat and conditions are improving all the time - and that is being customer-led.

Shooting an animal takes a lot of skill. Gamekeepers and people who keep the numbers of certain animals controlled, shoot to kill. Most people who blast away with a shotgun (or airgun) because it makes them feel hard have no conception of the damage they do to some animals who drag themselves away to die a lingering death. They should take up clay pigeon... but unfortunately for them you have to be a pretty good shot.

[Kizzy]

oooh, can't agree there the way we raise and process our meat has been called ito question many many times over recent years..BSE..CJD...

[Rawrbear]

If that's true, Scott will drop down my ranking.

[MTVN]

Well it could also be argued that hunting is a necessity to control and benefit animal population, plus a successful and correctly managed and regulated hunting industry can benefit the economies of African countries and also ensure more is done to prevent illegal poaching, it's not as simple as hunting = wrong

[Marc]

Does he mean animals or black children?

[Mumbles]

The only thing Scott's ever hunted is the sausage!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it could also be argued that hunting is a necessity to control and benefit animal population, plus a successful and correctly managed and regulated hunting industry can benefit the economies of African countries and also ensure more is done to prevent illegal poaching, it's not as simple as hunting = wrong

Culling and animal control aren't what we're talking about.

I watched a great TV programme about hunting in Africa. Filmed secretly, obviously. It showed one male (I ucan't use the word 'man' for these people)who tied a cheetah to a tree with a very short harness. Then, from about thirty feet away, another male - a fat, useless, dickless rich one, shot at it. He clipped her back leg with the first shot and she leapt up in the air trying desperately to get out of the harness. The second shot caught her in the face, taking off part of her nose. Now I'm thinking about this, I can remember the terrible noise the animal made when part of its face was shot off. The third shot caught her in the body and it took her around thirty seconds of desperately fighting to breathe through shot-peppered lungs before she finally died. The fat, useless, dickless male was well pleased with his disgusting self, although he probably changed a few of the details of the story when he recounted it to his fat, useless, dickless friends.

Yes... it's a noble sport all right.

[flamingGalah!]

Scott is a horrid, vile, cold heartless creature, so it comes as no real surprise that he takes satisfaction from killing innocent animals for "fun"...

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Livia

Culling and animal control aren't what we're talking about.

I watched a great TV programme about hunting in Africa. Filmed secretly, obviously. It showed one male (I ucan't use the word 'man' for these people)who tied a cheetah to a tree with a very short harness. Then, from about thirty feet away, another male - a fat, useless, dickless rich one, shot at it. He clipped her back leg with the first shot and she leapt up in the air trying desperately to get out of the harness. The second shot caught her in the face, taking off part of her nose. Now I'm thinking about this, I can remember the terrible noise the animal made when part of its face was shot off. The third shot caught her in the body and it took her around thirty seconds of desperately fighting to breathe through shot-peppered lungs before she finally died. The fat, useless, dickless male was well pleased with his disgusting self, although he probably changed a few of the details of the story when he recounted it to his fat, useless, dickless friends.

Yes... it's a noble sport all right.

That is disgusting I hate reading of cruelty of any kind to animals and Children. Pity it's not legal to do the same to people like that. I know I shouldn't say that, but things like that make me so angry and sad

[smeagol]

he seemed to enjoy killing that moth poor thing probably had a wife n kids and bills to pay r.i.p poor mothy the sheep got you

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Suze

That is disgusting I hate reading of cruelty of any kind to animals and Children. Pity it's not legal to do the same to people like that. I know I shouldn't say that, but things like that make me so angry and sad

Yes you should! The twats deserve it & more.