[Livia]

Originally Posted by tonysoprano0316

Rhian and Danica are probably on the same level as far as glamour models go.

But they aren't in the house for being glamour models.

Rhian is in there because of the Vernon Kay thing, Danica is in there because of the controversial programme she did.

Jasmine was on "Make Me A Supermodel" and all she did was brag about her lesbian experiences, the reason she is on CBB is because of her affairs with Simon Cowell and Cristiano Ronaldo.

It's fair enough questioning the celebrity of the housemates and bleating that Danica isn't one, but most of them could be posed the question "how are you a celebrity".

When was the last time Harvey released an album?

He's in there because he tweeted something to Cheryl Cole on Twitter.

Last year Natasha Giggs was on, for NO OTHER REASON than her infidelity with Ryan Giggs, her husbands brother.

We all know these people aren't real celebrities, if the programme had a literal title it would be "Minor Celebrity Big Brother" or "Questionable Celebrity Big Brother".

I think they're scraping the proverbial barrel with Danika in just the same way that they scraped the barrel with Natasha Giggs. Rhian is a page three girl. Jasmine is a fashion model. Whatever they've done apart from that has added to their noteriety, but they did have a career before they used a man to raise their name further.

I guess the last time Harvey released an album was about the same time Romeo from last year released an album. Fact is that he was in a band before his profile was raised by some dubious celebrity link.

Danika rinses men.

[tonysoprano0316]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think they're scraping the proverbial barrel with Danika in just the same way that they scraped the barrel with Natasha Giggs. Rhian is a page three girl. Jasmine is a fashion model. Whatever they've done apart from that has added to their noteriety, but they did have a career before they used a man to raise their name further.

I guess the last time Harvey released an album was about the same time Romeo from last year released an album. Fact is that he was in a band before his profile was raised by some dubious celebrity link.

Danika rinses men.

Danica is as much a model as Rhian.

She was in Nuts, Zoo, FHM, Maxim and Loaded long before she was in that rinsing programme.

Those aren't small publications and they are a hell of a lot more prominent than the modelling Jasmine did.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by tonysoprano0316

Danica is as much a model as Rhian.

She was in Nuts, Zoo, FHM, Maxim and Loaded long before she was in that rinsing programme.

Those aren't small publications and they are a hell of a lot more prominent than the modelling Jasmine did.

If you think that pouting and bending over in Nuts and FHM are more prominent than modelling for the fashion houses of Milan and Paris, then me telling you otherwise is going to mean nothing to you.

In any case, I have no time for Jasmine and only mentioned her former career because you held her up as an example.

[tonysoprano0316]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you think that pouting and bending over in Nuts and FHM are more prominent than modelling for the fashion houses of Milan and Paris, then me telling you otherwise is going to mean nothing to you.

In any case, I have no time for Jasmine and only mentioned her former career because you held her up as an example.

I'd never heard of Jasmine before Big Brother.

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Which she didn't win.

Rag on Nuts, Zoo and FHM all you want but the fact is they are prominent magazines featuring predominantly natural looking, curvy girls that appeal to blokes and because of this fact it winds up a lot of women.

If Jasmine wasn't so skinny you can guarantee she would have taken up the chance to appear in all of those lads mags if given the opportunity.

In fact, post Big Brother you can guarantee she is featured in at least one of them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by tonysoprano0316

I'd never heard of Jasmine before Big Brother.

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Which she didn't win.

Rag on Nuts, Zoo and FHM all you want but the fact is they are prominent magazines featuring predominantly natural looking, curvy girls that appeal to blokes and because of this fact it winds up a lot of women.

If Jasmine wasn't so skinny you can guarantee she would have taken up the chance to appear in all of those lads mags if given the opportunity.

In fact, post Big Brother you can guarantee she is featured in at least one of them.

I wouldn't dream of "raggin on" the lads mags. They serve a purpose and if you want to champion them, then good for you. I'm sure there are sufficient men who base their view of women completely on whether they have big tits and can do the crab to keep those publications in the black.

Incidentally, most women have no problem with beautiful women, only when that beauty is all they have to offer.

[tonysoprano0316]

Originally Posted by Livia

I wouldn't dream of "raggin on" the lads mags. They serve a purpose and if you want to champion them, then good for you. I'm sure there are sufficient men who base their view of women completely on whether they have big tits and can do the crab to keep those publications in the black.

Incidentally, most women have no problem with beautiful women, only when that beauty is all they have to offer.

Another attempted low blow and again totally misguided.

No, the reason I "champion" lads mags isn't because I expect women to have big tits and be bending over tables.

As I said on a previous post, I know two girls in the glamour modelling industry, one low level and one prominent.

Both have long term relationships and would be insulted by anyone referring to them as escorts or prostitutes, they despise the "oh you're just a wannabe WAG" stereotype, neither of them aspire to "bag a footballer".

Incidentally both of these girls do not agree with how Danica makes a living, but neither thinks she is a prostitute, just embarrassing for having a wish list which they think is tantamount to begging.

My point is totally the opposite of your claim, I don't care how a woman looks nor do I "base my opinion on them whether they have big tits or can do the crab", and neither do I assume that because a girl is a glamour model she also has loose morals, is a wannabe WAG or an air head.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by tonysoprano0316

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Quite true, not only did she not win, but she was clearly on it just for fame, not to actually become a model. I watched that series and she was the first person I remember seeing on a UK model who was clearly their just to make a name for herself, indeed just check her afore mentioned wiki page to see some choice facts about this woman of high morals... (what a joke)

Lennard first shot to fame in 2005 as a finalist in the reality TV talent search Make Me a Supermodel. She angered judge Rachel Hunter by describing her as: "spotty, finished and fat";[1] and also said: "I suggest she throws out the truckload of make-up she uses and hires a personal trainer." and talked about her lesbian affairs while filming the show

Lovely girl not a fame ***** at all

Since then she has carved a celebrity career out of her appearance, becoming a red-carpet regular. As such, she was known for her publicised rifts with fellow models such as Sophie Anderton, her relationships with other celebritie

Yes what a glittering model career and fine example of a human being to be judging other peoples career choices...

The woman is vile...