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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't get why you are asking me and not Jords himself and he is a really decent and good guy by the way.

However he was showing another example of not only Julie perhaps being manipulative in some way but highlighting that she was certainly not the only one doing so then went on to give his example.

I agreed with all Jord's said however so I said that as another person did too.

Really though for full clarification if needed, I think you need to ask Jords.I cannot speak for him but I got where he was coming from on this issue.

I already asked Jords and didn't get a reply. Mike was not being manipulative in any way, that was Danica. She wound him up, and Lorenzo too. Neither of them backstabbed ANYONE in the house. The most manipulative character in the house was Danica. That's why she's gone.

It is completely unrelated to someone backstabbing people while telling them to their face they love them. It's not in the same ball park, league, planet, universe, galaxy....