[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

the hotelier gave him the room for free. we gave him a fiver. it wasnt make believe. he was stranded on the streets for hours in the pouring rain. 30 miles from home. at 18 you dont always plan ahead. his plan was stay in his mates for the night, then the next day work out how to get home. not sure what happened to the bloke in the flat after he went to give statements to police station

You are just repeating yourself now, you have already provided this information in your previous posts. Either someone is not bothering to read what you have written or they are being deliberatly obtuse.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

the hotelier gave him the room for free. we gave him a fiver. it wasnt make believe. he was stranded on the streets for hours in the pouring rain. 30 miles from home. at 18 you dont always plan ahead. his plan was stay in his mates for the night, then the next day work out how to get home. not sure what happened to the bloke in the flat after he went to give statements to police station

You asked him to call you the next day. I guess he didn't.

Did he make any attempt to repay you - or your friend.

Most 18 year olds I know don't go out on a 30mile journey to visit and stay overnight with mate and go with no money, no outdoor clothes when it's pissing with rain, no way of getting back home the next day, no mobile and knowing they have no parents to call upon - or indeed any other friends..........

[Gstar]

I actually don't mind the police, they were really friendly and supportive when my parents had violent arguments when I was younger.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

You are just repeating yourself now, you have already provided this information in your previous posts. Either someone is not bothering to read what you have written or they are being deliberatly obtuse.

Kizzy please stop baiting - it is unecessary and it is very obvious what you are attempting to do.

The OP has repeated himself but has not answered what was asked.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by the truth

It wasnt bullsh** my driver drove past the flat in question. its a rough part of the town, the windows were smashed in. he was stood in the rain and the driver spoke to the 101 people who flatly refused any help at all, as did the police. the story is 100% true.

im saying to you with no offence to be taken by you! that i think parts of the story are true but not all of it!
people make things fit the situation!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

It wasnt bullsh** my driver drove past the flat in question. its a rough part of the town, the windows were smashed in. he was stood in the rain and the driver spoke to the 101 people who flatly refused any help at all, as did the police. the story is 100% true.

Many rough parts have windows smashed in and police in attendence. Doesn't mean this lad was part of it though.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Kizzy please stop baiting - it is unecessary and it is very obvious what you are attempting to do.

The OP has repeated himself but has not answered what was asked.

I am not baiting, he has posted the whole story and you obviously don't believe him...
To me the situation is entirely plausible....Why the interrogation?

[Benjamin]

I am watching...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I am watching...

you perv

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I am not baiting, he has posted the whole story and you obviously don't believe him...
To me the situation is entirely plausible....Why the interrogation?

You are perfectly entitled to believe this entire scenario as being plausible.

I do not.

If you care to take the time to digest what I write, rather than you being more interested in finding some petty excuse to fault, bicker and criticise what I write: then you too, may see why I am not quite so gullible in believing this - If the OP is genuine about the story - that's fine - I don't believe the yarn being spun by this 18 year old if the OP's version is as he/she says.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I am watching...

Were you watching close enough though... that is the question: where did the 18 year old pal disappear to? Where'd he get put up for the night !

[GiRTh]

How did this thread turn into an argument? Sad thing is, I agree with Pyramid* but she's so confrontational and sarcastic I cant be ars*d to join in. I dont get why there are so many personal insults in this thread. No need for it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

How did this thread turn into an argument? Sad thing is, I agree with Pyramid* but she's so confrontational and sarcastic I cant be ars*d to join in. I dont get why there are so many personal insults in this thread. No need for it.

just think if we where all in bb together
ukturtle would be after my rusty sheriffs badge for sure!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You are perfectly entitled to believe this entire scenario as being plausible.

I do not.

If you care to take the time to digest what I write, rather than you being more interested in finding some petty excuse to fault, bicker and criticise what I write: then you too, may see why I am not quite so gullible in believing this - If the OP is genuine about the story - that's fine - I don't believe the yarn being spun by this 18 year old if the OP's version is as he/she says.

There is no need to accuse FM's of baiting because I disagree, all the info you requested it here... I don't know what else can be said?
He spoke to the young man in question and he appeared smart, sober and scared..Why would you take that as being spun a yarn?
I agree there are some young people who take advantage but as the truth has said in this instance he seemed entirely genuine.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

How did this thread turn into an argument? Sad thing is, I agree with Pyramid* but she's so confrontational and sarcastic I cant be ars*d to join in. I dont get why there are so many personal insults in this thread. No need for it.

I will speak bluntly and I'll address the same sarcasm as I am met with by many on here.

Personal insults have been hurled at me all day on various threads by several ...... but funy enough: that seems okay !! So you'll have to forgive me for standing my ground every now and then.

Kizzy: as I suggested earlier: if you read my posts correctly: you will note that I have said (several times) that I do not believe the 18 year olds version: I have said that I am willing to accept the OP's version. I'd appreciate if you would stop trying to infer I have said otherwise as it does seem you are attempting to antagonise for no good reason - and that is why I refer to what could be perceived as you baiting.

The OP may be telling the truth, they may not. I for one do not believe the 18 year old version.

All the info is here? I may have missed the Op confirming the young man contacted him the next day, said thanks. I may have missed him explaining where his mate disappeared to?

[Vanessa]

It sounds genuine to me as well. I would help the lad if i could.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I will speak bluntly and I'll address the same sarcasm as I am met with by many on here.

Personal insults have been hurled at me all day on various threads by several ...... but funy enough: that seems okay !! So you'll have to forgive me for standing my ground every now and then.

Kizzy: as I suggested earlier: if you read my posts correctly: you will note that I have said (several times) that I do not believe the 18 year olds version: I have said that I am willing to accept the OP's version. I'd appreciate if you would stop trying to infer I have said otherwise as it does seem you are attempting to antagonise for no good reason - and that is why I refer to what could be perceived as you baiting.

The OP may be telling the truth, they may not. I for one do not believe the 18 year old version.

All the info is here? I may have missed the Op confirming the young man contacted him the next day, said thanks. I may have missed him explaining where his mate disappeared to?

which part do you disbelieve and why?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

which part do you disbelieve and why?

My previous posts explain it pretty clearly.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

My previous posts explain it pretty clearly.

no it really doesnt. ive explained it clearly why i believe it in detail several times. youve just said you dont believe the kid. why? all you say is because he didnt ring us the next day? or because his mate went to give a statement. which part do you not believe? the windows were broken, he was stranded, he did try police, he did try his mother. so is it just the fact he didnt ring us and the fact his mate went away for interview that makes you disblieve him? would he go to all that trouble just to get put into a hotel room a few miles out of town for the night? freezing in the rain for hours? just to spin a yarn?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

no it really doesnt. ive explained it clearly why i believe it in detail several times. youve just said you dont believe the kid. why?

Try reading again, the truth is out there...... and in my posts, in various comments, lots of reasons with lots of unanswered questions - I'm not going to repeat what's already written.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Try reading again, the truth is out there...... and in my posts, in various comments, lots of reasons with lots of unanswered questions - I'm not going to repeat what's already written.

pls re read my last post which was rewritten before you replied. youve not explained. am I to presume youd have left in stranded?

[Kizzy]

Well the fact is he is ok, and like you say the police were unable to assist him,so good for your driver and yourself for not abandoning him miles from home.

[joeysteele]

Good topic 'the truth'.

I have to say I find the Police far better than as described in yout opening post,however I have also seen and heard from others of this kind of dismissive and cold attiude from them especially to men, as portrayed in your opening post.

There are likely many reasons why the guy was there alone and how he got there too,he doesn't fit the usual scams of people coming up to others to get a few quid or even food.
He went with your driver to the station again and rang them from your drivers phone. someone scamming would not have done that.

As with your driver and then yourself, all you came across was someone alone, on a rotten night, with no money and no shelter looking for help, he was also probably in some element of shock too from the sounds of things.

It really doesn't matter whether there is more to this story or not, the fact remains he was alone, he needed a good samaritan for want of better description and found one in one of your drivers and then you yourself too.
Ensuring it was seen through as to that 'crisis' point and get him safe, get him to a comfortable place to stay for the night and a small bit of money too was totally commendable as to your driver and yourself.

Whatever happened the following day doesn't matter, you did the right and good thing at the time.
There are times that events happen in Britain where people maybe could have done a lot more and put themselves out. Some do, many don't.
Hopefully it is not an attitude that is totally representative of Britain now.I would have likely set out to do what your driver did and reach out to this guy, no matter his circumstances.

The whole desciption of the occurence and you and your drivers determination to help this guy is to your credit.
You helped him all you could, how you could and made sure he was safe too,really well done on that.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Well the fact is he is ok, and like you say the police were unable to assist him,so good for your driver and yourself for not abandoning him miles from home.

indeed thanks. mind you the cops werent unable it appears they were simply unwilling. after the endless stories of the police failures, I cant say Im that surprised.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Good topic 'the truth'.

I have to say I find the Police far better than as described in yout opening post,however I have also seen and heard from others of this kind of dismissive and cold attiude from them especially to men, as portrayed in your opening post.

There are likely many reasons why the guy was there alone and how he got there too,he doesn't fit the usual scams of people coming up to others to get a few quid or even food.
He went with your driver to the station again and rang them from your drivers phone. someone scamming would not have done that.

As with your driver and then yourself, all you came across was someone alone, on a rotten night, with no money and no shelter looking for help, he was also probably in some element of shock too from the sounds of things.

It really doesn't matter whether there is more to this story or not, the fact remains he was alone, he needed a good samaritan for want of better description and found one in one of your drivers and then you yourself too.
Ensuring it was seen through as to that 'crisis' point and get him safe, get him to a comfortable place to stay for the night and a small bit of money too was totally commendable as to your driver and yourself.

Whatever happened the following day doesn't matter, you did the right and good thing at the time.
There are times that events happen in Britain where people maybe could have done a lot more and put themselves out. Some do, many don't.
Hopefully it is not an attitude that is totally representative of Britain now.I would have likely set out to do what your driver did and reach out to this guy, no matter his circumstances.

The whole desciption of the occurence and you and your drivers determination to help this guy is to your credit.
You helped him all you could, how you could and made sure he was safe too,really well done on that.

cheers pal