[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

he was known to be involved with her as far back as February this year...... at which point she could only have been 14 - that's when people started to notice and be aware of what was going on - It could have been going on a lot longer: in which case, she may not have reached puberty therefore the term paedophile may indeed be correct.

Regardless of the terminology people are using: he is a sex offender. Of that there is no dubiety.

well with the greatest of respect, I do not know if she is nearly 16 or has only just turned 15, and if anything the length of the affair (since at least as early as Feb) only adds weight to the argument that it could be real relationship and not the 'lust driven' affair others are making it out to be.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well with the greatest of respect, I do not know if she is nearly 16 or has only just turned 15, and if anything the length of the affair (since at least as early as Feb) only adds weight to the argument that it could be real relationship and not the 'lust driven' affair others are making it out to be.

Oh don't get me wrong: I understand where you're coming from, 100% and there is no way any of us can say it's not a highly unlikely relationship that may prove us all wrong.

I'm more of the opinion that he will (most likely, imo) be getting his kicks from the fact that she is forbidden fruit, was then, and still is. I get the feeling that soon as she matures (emotionally and in age) that he won't quite get the same thrill and his ardour will dampen pdq.

I could be wrong: but any man in his 30's going into a relationship with a minor - a child - is missing something - she is (and was in Feb) a child - her own mother has said she is still very childlike.

I'm also pretty saddened that there seems to be no mention of the effect this must be having on his wife (not from you - in general). I feel so sorry for her as much as I do the girl's parents.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh don't get me wrong: I understand where you're coming from, 100% and there is no way any of us can say it's not a highly unlikely relationship that may prove us all wrong.

I'm more of the opinion that he will (most likely, imo) be getting his kicks from the fact that she is forbidden fruit, was then, and still is. I get the feeling that soon as she matures (emotionally and in age) that he won't quite get the same thrill and his ardour will dampen pdq.

I could be wrong: but any man in his 30's going into a relationship with a minor - a child - is missing something - she is (and was in Feb) a child - her own mother has said she is still very childlike.

I'm also pretty saddened that there seems to be no mention of the effect this must be having on his wife (not from you - in general). I feel so sorry for her as much as I do the girl's parents.

Her parent's describe her as very childlike, but yet she's clearly capable of running away to France and engaging in a relationship with a 30 year old man? Something's not quite right there imo.

Again I disagree with you here Pyr, I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. They said that she should come home and they aren't angry. What does she have to do to make them angry then? go on a shooting rampage? Maybe her 'running away' is actually a cry for adult attention and the teacher, contrary to being some sort of 'groomer' is actually an innocent pawn in the game.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

I couldn't believe when I heard that today, that's totally out of order, that the parents weren't told of this.

If the mother had been made aware, there is a good chance the fact that her daughter made a 'fuss' about looking in her the eye on the final Thursday night to tell her mum " I love you"... that would have set alarm bells ringing - or it may have.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Her parent's describe her as very childlike, but yet she's clearly capable of running away to France and engaging in a relationship with a 30 year old man? Something's not quite right there imo.

Again I disagree with you here Pyr, I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. They said that she should come home and they aren't angry. What does she have to do to make them angry then? go on a shooting rampage? Maybe her 'running away' is actually a cry for adult attention and the teacher, contrary to being some sort of 'groomer' is actually an innocent pawn in the game.

You don't feel sorry for the parents? well, that takes my breath away fruitcake - I'm not a parent and can only imagine the hell this is putting them through. I'm horrified that anyone could say they dont feel sorry for her parents.

Surely you don't need it spelled out to you that they are trying to get the message over to her that she isn't in trouble, that they are not going to be angry with her, that they still love her regardless: is to reinforce that she need not be scared to contact them: it's very natural that she (the girl) may be frightened / embarrassed / regretting what she's done and feeling terrible about how it's made her parents worry - and is scared to contact parents. I'll tell you something: I ran away from boarding school (twice) - once out of sheer devilment - and I was more scared of my parents reaction after I did: than I was of checking into a hostel in London on my todd and wandering about on jacksie. At the time of running away: my parents were the last thing on my mind: i wanted to do what I wanted to do: it was only when I realised that mum and dad were enlisting the help of all sorts of people to try to find me that the 'fear' set in of the bother I'd get into. It was only years later that I realised the utter hell I put my parents through - when I'd matured and realised just how much danger I put myself in.

Perhaps your idea is to put the fear of god into the lassie from her parents - as some way to get her to make contact - it's most certainly not my idea.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I take my hat off to you for the stance you are taking - but imo - it's a pretty cold hearted one.