[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Joey,I really think David Cameron is trying to help the country,yes some of what he does is harsh we have all felt the effects,but surely if we all pull together in the countries hour of need we will reap the benefits eventually,and I agree that the votes Labour will get will simply be a vote AGAINST the Tories,people really should think about the consequenses of revenge!

I agree, the problem David Cameron has is that he would like I think to be seen as a consensus politician and has tried to present that at the election, everyone who meets him says he is a friendly and approachable guy.

He not only got the hard task of leading a Govt in a fragile economical state, he also had World events and problems arising from the Eurozone to face that could threaten how he proceeded.
He then has the far right of his party pressing for all sorts of harder policies as opposed to his more moderate ideas as to policies.
As well as all that he has to look constantly over his shoulder at what the Lib Dems are doing and saying, knowing they can scupper any plans he brings forward.

Rather then creating a strong Govt, this Coalition has been a weak Govt, with far too many factions pulling this way and then the other.
I think it's a pity he didn't get the chance to, on the Letterman show, get his points across better as to things he has done and had to do.

For Labour, the Coalition is a gift beyond belief, they are in effect the only opposition UK party there has been to the policies put forward.
My guess is they will win with a overall majority of at least 30 whenever the election comes.

David Cameron has had a baptism of fire as to being PM, it is never an easy job nor should it be but I cannot see any way back for him from the problems this Govt has now.
2013 and 2014 are going to be riddled with the effects of polices that are going to hit the most vulnerable far more,the NHS is heading for really big problems.
He will have nothing to give away at the next election as his reduction of the deficit will be nowhere near ,( if it even gets anywhere near half), of what he made his target as to it to be.

Politics is a cruel and lonely place at times.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree, the problem David Cameron has is that he would like I think to be seen as a consensus politician and has tried to present that at the election, everyone who meets him says he is a friendly and approachable guy.

He not only got the hard task of leading a Govt in a fragile economical state, he also had World events and problems arising from the Eurozone to face that could threaten how he proceeded.
He then has the far right of his party pressing for all sorts of harder policies as opposed to his more moderate ideas as to policies.
As well as all that he has to look constantly over his shoulder at what the Lib Dems are doing and saying, knowing they can scupper any plans he brings forward.

Rather then creating a strong Govt, this Coalition has been a weak Govt, with far too many factions pulling this way and then the other.
I think it's a pity he didn't get the chance to, on the Letterman show, get his points across better as to things he has done and had to do.

For Labour, the Coalition is a gift beyond belief, they are in effect the only opposition UK party there has been to the policies put forward.
My guess is they will win with a overall majority of at least 30 whenever the election comes.

David Cameron has had a baptism of fire as to being PM, it is never an easy job nor should it be but I cannot see any way back for him from the problems this Govt has now.
2013 and 2014 are going to be riddled with the effects of polices that are going to hit the most vulnerable far more,the NHS is heading for really big problems.
He will have nothing to give away at the next election as his reduction of the deficit will be nowhere near ,( if it even gets anywhere near half), of what he made his target as to it to be.

Politics is a cruel and lonely place at times.

I disagree. labour are a total joke. not even the stupidest people can see what a disaster they were. the only reason labour didnt get even bigger hammering is that they created around 10 million workless chavs, many of whom worried they would lose their handouts under the tories. but 4 or 5 years later, the benefits system will be totally different and the freeloaders wont have that option anymore, so the culture will have changed a bit. the tories will produce more private jobs and reduce the mindless burocracy of big brother new labour. i thought new labour were as bad as thatchers lot by the end.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

I disagree. labour are a total joke. not even the stupidest people can see what a disaster they were. the only reason labour didnt get even bigger hammering is that they created around 10 million workless chavs, many of whom worried they would lose their handouts under the tories. but 4 or 5 years later, the benefits system will be totally different and the freeloaders wont have that option anymore, so the culture will have changed a bit. the tories will produce more private jobs and reduce the mindless burocracy of big brother new labour. i thought new labour were as bad as thatchers lot by the end.

If the picture you paint comes to fruition then David Cameron has a chance of again being the largest party, however there is no evidence the private sector is going to come up with the massive number of vacancies needed, in fact a lot of the private sector,especially in Stores and retail are reducing current staffing hours.
There is only just around 2 and a half years now to the next election, we are still at this time in a double dip recession.

Also from what I am finding,from the organisations who deal with benefits and welfare,while it is admitted that the Country does support benefit and welfare reform, it is felt that the measures now to take place from April 2013 and then likely October 2013 into 2014 are too harsh and severe.

I would love to see the Conservatives rally, however I cannot see any possibility that anyone who didn't vote for them in 2010, will do so in 2015.
The Lib Dems have comfortably lost a third of the voters they got in 2010 and they in the main have gone to Labour and won't return in 2015 to the Lib Dems.

The Conservatives can be up to 3% ahead of Labour and still fail to get an overall majority,Labour barely needs to be 2% ahead to, for sure, be able to form a Govt with likely no help really from other parties at all.
The boundary changes the Conservatives desperately needed are not going to happen too due to the Lib Dems pulling support away from that because of the loss of Lord's reform.

David Cameron is the best leader of a party we have at present in my view,he came across really well on Letterman and he does outside the House of Commons too, the nice guys are often not the ones to win though.