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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So the Maddie case is true, Holly case isnt true,Gary Glitter is a Saint ,whats your take on Saville is he a Saint too ? wake up ,live in the real world, child abuse is alive and kicking in UK and coverd up daily by men in grey suits

Are you following me around the forum? I'm flattered.

Where on earth did I say 'Gary Glitter is a saint'?!? You're reading my post completely the wrong way, I don't even know where to begin.

Jimmy Savile is dead. Whether it's true or not, there is no way for him to defend himself or admit to his guilt - only the words of people who say they are victims. This is a crime that cannot be resolved, or this is an allegation that cannot be refuted, because the main body of evidence, i.e. Jimmy Savile, is no longer there. I mentioned Gary Glitter to show that the British media have no problem with reporting on celebrities who are accused of committing crimes of this nature. That's why I find it strange that this story has only been reported now, after Jimmy Savile's death, when Gary Glitter, who is still alive, has been outed as a child molester and from what I gather, quite rightly so. Why did nobody try to do this while Jimmy was alive? I understand that victims need to come to terms with things in their own time, but it was a very long time ago - Jimmy hadn't been a staple part of broadcasting for a long time before he died - I find it hard to believe that his influence was so strong that no one dared rat him out while he was still alive.

I'm more than aware that child abuse is a problem in this country. So many cases of child abuse rings are being uncovered in recent times - I'm absolutely 100% not denying that, I'm surprised you think that that's what I'm saying. My issue with this case is purely the timing of it. Nothing, legally, can be done to make things better for them. They can't get any closure because he's dead. All this has done is bring attention to them, probably in a negative way in the long run, and I think that's just going to make it worse for them.

The Hollie Greig case, as I said in my last post, I have a personal connection to, and while I'm no legal expert in any capacity, I just believe from the bottom of my heart that the story does not add up on the side of the alleged victim and her mother.

There's absolutely no need to bring up what I said in another thread that has nothing to do with this one. You don't even remember what I said, do you? I just reckoned that they were being lambasted for not showing the right amount of emotion and that I thought they were being punished over and over again for a mistake - other posters thought they were just being neglectful, I disagreed, and I've not bothered to post in there again because it can only go round in circles. I'd like to respectfully ask you to not target me again in this way over my views, because it's not relevant to this particular discussion.