[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes millions loved his Jim will fix it - he used his power
SkyNews has found out the Police did interview him (2007)
but they dropped it , due to lack of enough paperwork on it.

Lots of people better loved than him have fallen from grace after breaking the law. If the police questioned him and "dropped it" then there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute, I'm guessing. Perhaps one of the people speaking to the press now should have presented some of the evidence at the time that they seem to have magically produced now he's dead.

[arista]

Even now on TV News
say keep saying they are worried about his Charity,
still running.


There is a Stink here

[Livia]

Evidence. Why now? Why not at the time?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Evidence. Why now? Why not at the time?

Esther
said she was told to ignore it
so TV Producers at the BBC
are involved



"Jim fooled us all into thinking
he was a saint. When I saw the truth, I wept"

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[flamingGalah!]

This isn't new, there have always been rumours about Jimmy Savile being a dirty old perv. As the saying goes 'No smoke without fire'...

[Livia]

I agree... he always came across as a bit of a weirdo and a perv... but still... it's dispicable that people have waited till he's dead. Firstly, he cannot defend himself and secondly, if it's true, he cannot face punishment for what he did. It all boils down to this: someone somewhere is making some cash out of this.

[Omah]

C4 News ran the allegation story first with contributions from Rantzen and De'Ath but none from "the other side" .....

[arista]

Yes on that Ch4News Report
Esther saying how he was with the PM.

Plus power of the Charity and BBC at that time

[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz285lawJRf

Two women stepped forward yesterday to say they had been abused as teenagers by Sir Jimmy Savile.

As the scandal around the star deepened, Katrina Rose, 51, described how she was attacked in his flat after being invited to his radio show when she was 14.

She now regrets not speaking out when he was alive but ‘lost her nerve’ even though Savile ‘ruined her life’.

The second victim to bravely waive her anonymity, Bebe Roberts, 62, claimed the ‘sleazy’ Jim’ll Fix It presenter regularly sneaked into bedrooms at a girls' boarding school and once assaulted her when she was 15 and made a lewd proposition.

She said: ‘I did not know what he was like until he did that. There were girls in there who were quite terrified of him.’

A third, unnamed, woman alleged she was raped aged 15 by the star during a work experience stint at the BBC. She yesterday reported her accusation to police for the first time.

I think there will be a lot more victims coming forward - Savile appears to have used children as Kleenex .....

[arista]

There is a stink now

[Nedusa]

This story is getting smellier by the day... Judging by the number of victims this man has left he is starting to take on the appearance of serial rapist, sexual fiend , sexual pervert and sexual molester all rolled into one...

However , he was also a highly respected charity campaigner, media star, celebrity, friend to the royals.

Kinda hard to see these two sides of him happily coexisting for so many years..!!!
I mean (if true) you think someone out there would have raised the alarm..!!!
This story still has a long way to run with more revelations on the way I suspect..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This story is getting smellier by the day... Judging by the number of victims this man has left he is starting to take on the appearance of serial rapist, sexual fiend , sexual pervert and sexual molester all rolled into one...

However , he was also a highly respected charity campaigner, media star, celebrity, friend to the royals.

Kinda hard to see these two sides of him happily coexisting for so many years..!!!
I mean (if true) you think someone out there would have raised the alarm..!!!
This story still has a long way to run with more revelations on the way I suspect..

Yes thats in Tomorrows Night Docu
how he stopped it.

Back then he had the power by saying his Charity
for hospitals and children, would suffer.

[Omah]

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/lou...ations_3307442

Theroux, responded to the news of the imminent documentary on his Facebook page, saying: “I can’t say that I’m completely blindsided by these revelations. Still, it’s shocking and upsetting to have one’s worst fears confirmed.” In the original documentary in 2000, Jimmy came across partly as a bit of an egomaniac, but more than anything a little bizarre particularly in his Miss Havisham style preservation of the bedroom of the late “Duchess”, his mother.

In a late night chat with Savile, he exposed his more violent side talking of the days in which he was a dance-hall manager in the north of England, saying “I wouldn't stand for any nonsense whatsoever. Ever. Ever. I never threw anybody out. Tied them up and put them down in the bloody boiler house until I was ready for them.”

I'll bet the ex-miner and ex-wrestler used a knuckle-duster, too .....

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...?newsfeed=true

The Metropolitan police is launching a new investigation after a woman told detectives she was raped by Sir Jimmy Savile in London in the 1970s.

The woman reported the allegation to police on Monday as fresh sexual assault claims against Savile were reported in the media ahead of an ITV1 documentary about the subject.

[chuff me dizzy]

It was on my local news last night (yorks) and they were talking to his friend ,who said "You should not speak ill of the dead" I had smoke coming out of my ears YES you should if the dead is a dirty old pervert, he needs his Knighthood removing too

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It was on my local news last night (yorks) and they were talking to his friend ,who said "You should not speak ill of the dead" I had smoke coming out of my ears YES you should if the dead is a dirty old pervert, he needs his Knighthood removing too

I agree, if proven the Knighthood would have to be rescinded and his repution and name forever tarnished with the shame of being a Serial Rapist/Sexual Molester.

Problem is how do you prove it.....?????

[Smithy]

What's the point of investigating it now?

He's dead, can't punish him now :/

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What's the point of investigating it now?

He's dead, can't punish him now :/

I know the man whos done the documentry, it was started when Saville was still alive,the BBC bought rites to it, but then the selfish old scrote died, so Bbc refused to show it, it has now been sold to ITV ,no doubt tweeked because of his death, but I can assure you it WAS made while he was alive

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What's the point of investigating it now?

He's dead, can't punish him now :/

If the allegations are true, then his honours should be stripped from his name, which should be blackened forever .....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trials by media are dispicable and unfair, and when the accused is dead it's taken to an even lower point. And Esther Rantzen throwing her weight behind these claims shows us just what that woman will do to keep her career alive far past it's sell-by date.

what about the many women who have nothing to gain from making these allegations livia? these women have nothing to gain, they don't know each other, they have no reason to lie. None of them are desperately in need of cash, none of them are trying to pursue a career in the public eye. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What's the point of investigating it now?

He's dead, can't punish him now :/

people who are abused often find the weight of trying to hide these type of abuses is just as traumatic as the actual abuse. sometimes just telling the truth and getting it off of their shoulders can be very important and therapeutic.

Just having people understand what has been done to you can be very healing.

[Z]

Originally Posted by lostalex

what about the many women who have nothing to gain from making these allegations livia? these women have nothing to gain, they don't know each other, they have no reason to lie. None of them are desperately in need of cash, none of them are trying to pursue a career in the public eye. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong.

Plenty of people jump on the bandwagon with claims against celebrities though lostalex, I don't know what it's like in the USA but this is a phenomenon in the UK - so many people come out of the woodwork that it's hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's just telling lies to make a quick buck from the tabloid newspapers. You don't have to be desperately in need of cash to sell a story - quite the opposite really - it's about greed. I'm not saying any of these women are lying, but it is a thing that happens a lot in this country.

I suppose it's a positive thing that an investigation has been launched, but I really don't see what this will achieve. They can't do any tests to check for rape; they can't interview the suspect in question; the only thing they can do is chase up decades old leads and try to come to a conclusion. It's a shame for anyone who was indeed a victim of him, if he did do anything wrong, but that's all that can happen now.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Evidence. Why now? Why not at the time?

do you know that only about 10% of rape victims actually ever report their rape? Rape victims not coming forward immediately is not strange or suspicious at all.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Zee

Plenty of people jump on the bandwagon with claims against celebrities though lostalex, I don't know what it's like in the USA but this is a phenomenon in the UK - so many people come out of the woodwork that it's hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's just telling lies to make a quick buck from the tabloid newspapers. You don't have to be desperately in need of cash to sell a story - quite the opposite really - it's about greed. I'm not saying any of these women are lying, but it is a thing that happens a lot in this country.

I suppose it's a positive thing that an investigation has been launched, but I really don't see what this will achieve. They can't do any tests to check for rape; they can't interview the suspect in question; the only thing they can do is chase up decades old leads and try to come to a conclusion. It's a shame for anyone who was indeed a victim of him, if he did do anything wrong, but that's all that can happen now.

people "come out of the woodwork" because it gives them courage to know that they are not alone, because many rape victims feel like they are alone and that no one will believe them, so of course when they find out they are not the only victim they feel more confidence to come forward.

[Z]

Originally Posted by lostalex

people "come out of the woodwork" because it gives them courage to know that they are not alone, because many rape victims feel like they are alone and that no one will believe them, so of course when they find out they are not the only victim they feel more confidence to come forward.

Yeah, but plenty of others step forward with made up stories to try and cash in on a scandal, which is more what I'm talking about. I'm curious to see how this case ends - I personally don't think they're going to be able to prove either way what happened, but I do agree with you that it is incredibly healing to have people listen to you and believe you.