[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Apple202

Oh just shut the **** up.

Melanie went home! Get over it.

Tulisa is quite clearly an excellent mentor, seen as though on most polls her acts are always towards the top, the only judge this year to have escaped the bottom 2 as of yet and oh what else? Who won last year? And with what category? That's right, Tulisa won with a girlgroup that were 100/1 pre live shows. You just put all blame on Tulisa but give her no credit for what she has achieved as a mentor on the show.

1. Rude and if you don't like other peoples opinions then you shouldn't be on a Forum.

2. This has nothing to do with her poor decision tonight.

3. Little Mix never would have won last year if they wasn't given every late slot, The Risk and Sophie being dismantled, and Amelia missing half the series so if anything the producers deserve the most credit for last years winner.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

1. Rude and if you don't like other peoples opinions then you shouldn't be on a Forum.

2. This has nothing to do with her poor decision tonight.

3. Little Mix never would have won last year if they was given every late slot, The Risk and Sophie being dismantled, and Amelia missing half the series so if anything the producers deserve the most credit for last years winner.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

1. Rude and if you don't like other peoples opinions then you shouldn't be on a Forum.

2. This has nothing to do with her poor decision tonight.

3. Little Mix never would have won last year if they wasn't given every late slot, The Risk and Sophie being dismantled, and Amelia missing half the series so if anything the producers deserve the most credit for last years winner.

well said

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

1. Rude and if you don't like other peoples opinions then you shouldn't be on a Forum.

2. This has nothing to do with her poor decision tonight.

3. Little Mix never would have won last year if they was given every late slot, The Risk and Sophie being dismantled, and Amelia missing half the series so if anything the producers deserve the most credit for last years winner.

You're acting as if every decision she's made has been a bad one? Are you forgetting something? Last week she saved Carolynne. There, looking back just one week I've found a perfect decision by Tulisa.

And again, you completely undermime everything Tulisa did for the girls. Who was the one that first gave them a market? On the first few live shows, who really hammered an appeal for the girls? Who, despite them being favourite to leave the first live show, kept them in the competition when she could have easily dropped them and just gone for an apparently easier ride? Who was the only mentor that looked fully invested in their acts - going out of her way to spend time with the girls? As a Little Mix fan, I am extremely grateful for everything Tulisa did for the girls. And trust me, that was alot.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Apple202

You're acting as if every decision she's made has been a bad one? Are you forgetting something? Last week she saved Carolynne. There, looking back just one week I've found a perfect decision by Tulisa.

And again, you completely undermime everything Tulisa did for the girls. Who was the one that first gave them a market? On the first few live shows, who really hammered an appeal for the girls? Who, despite them being favourite to leave the first live show, kept them in the competition when she could have easily dropped them and just gone for an apparently easier ride? Who was the only mentor that looked fully invested in their acts - going out of her way to spend time with the girls? As a Little Mix fan, I am extremely grateful for everything Tulisa did for the girls. And trust me, that was alot.

Im not saying that Tulisa is 100% evil because as you pointed out she voted Rylan out last week and she did care about Little Mix so much that she dismantled The Risk and had a no hoper group in Nu Vibe, but if that year didn't have the week 1 twist or the rest of the acts being sabotaged for Little Mix and Marcus then I bet that either The Risk, Amelia, or Sophie would have won.

[Black Dagger]

Little Mix won because they were seen as a 'we won't steal your boyfriends' girl-group, every girl-group before them were not even seen as remotely like-able etc.

And you make it out as if Tulisa did everything, the girls had their say as well and people vote on the act, not the mentor.

And this 'only judge not to be in the B2 is bollocks' SHE HAS 3 STRONG ACTS FFS, OF COURSE THEY WILL BE SAFE EARLY ON.

The overs had fodder, Rylan was never going to get a lot of votes and a group was going to split votes.

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Im not saying that Tulisa is 100% evil because as you pointed out she voted Rylan out last week and she did care about Little Mix so much that she dismantled The Risk and had a no hoper group in Nu Vibe, but if that year didn't have the week 1 twist or the rest of the acts being sabotaged for Little Mix and Marcus then I bet that either The Risk, Amelia, or Sophie would have won.

1) How did she? They pretty much dismantled themselves because of their constant swap around of members, and actually Nu Vibe were a group that showed promise in judges houses. And besides, on week 1 it was obviously going to be 2 Shoes or Nu Vibe leaving, and Tulisa likely thought the boyband would get more votes than 2 Shoes, so I'd hardly say that was her picking fodder for LM.
2) You're only saying that because they were top 2. It's easy to say that the top 2 were only there because other's were sabotaged, but really? I wouldn't say Amelia was sabotaged, 3/5 times she was in she had pimp slot, I wouldn't say Misha was either, saved 3 times doesn't scream 'sabotage' to me..

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Little Mix won because they were seen as a 'we won't steal your boyfriends' girl-group, every girl-group before them were not even seen as remotely like-able etc.

And you make it out as if Tulisa did everything, the girls had their say as well and people vote on the act, not the mentor.

And this 'only judge not to be in the B2 is bollocks' SHE HAS 3 STRONG ACTS FFS, OF COURSE THEY WILL BE SAFE EARLY ON.

The overs had fodder, Rylan was never going to get a lot of votes and a group was going to split votes.

That's exactly my point, seen as though it was Tulisa who insisted upon this every week towards the start to secure a fanbase for them.

[Brother Leon]

Can the "sex tape" thing stop being used against her though?

She sucked her boyfriend's dick..wow lol. The thing to hate on her for is the fact she was **** more than anything else.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Apple202

So much BS i can't even

1) How did she? They pretty much dismantled themselves because of their constant swap around of members, and actually Nu Vibe were a group that showed promise in judges houses. And besides, on week 1 it was obviously going to be 2 Shoes or Nu Vibe leaving, and Tulisa likely thought the boyband would get more votes than 2 Shoes, so I'd hardly say that was her picking fodder for LM.
2) You're only saying that because they were top 2. It's easy to say that the top 2 were only there because other's were sabotaged, but really? I wouldn't say Amelia was sabotaged, 3/5 times she was in she had pimp slot, I wouldn't say Misha was either, saved 3 times doesn't scream 'sabotage' to me..



That's exactly my point, seen as though it was Tulisa who insisted upon this every week towards the start to secure a fanbase for them.

Nu Vibe lost to Frankie Cocozza in the votes, 2Shoes never would have done that, and Amelia was on last so many times because she had a disadvantage in the competition after missing half the series, and also being on first in the final is the best as they shut the phone lines down quick after the last performer has finished, and when did I mention Misha? I know she was never going to win but she was sabotaged when Tulisa and Louis thought it was clever to listen to rumours about her being a bully, and Marcus only ever came 2nd because he was always performing in the last 2.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Can the "sex tape" thing stop being used against her though?

She sucked her boyfriend's dick..wow lol. The thing to hate on her for is the fact she was **** more than anything else.

Well what about when Tulisa witnessed a murder and didn't bother to call The Police?

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Nu Vibe lost to Frankie Cocozza in the votes, 2Shoes never would have done that, and Amelia was on last so many times because she had a disadvantage in the competition after missing half the series, and also being on first in the final is the best as they shut the phone lines down quick after the last performer has finished, and when did I mention Misha? I know she was never going to win but she was sabotaged when Tulisa and Louis thought it was clever to listen to rumours about her being a bully, and Marcus only ever came 2nd because he was always performing in the last 2.

1) An assumption.
2) So when Amelia gets pimp slots it's only fair, but with LM and Marcus it's manipulation?
3) You used a collective term so I used her as a valid example.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Apple202

1) An assumption.
2) So when Amelia gets pimp slots it's only fair, but with LM and Marcus it's manipulation?
3) You used a collective term so I used her as a valid example.

1. You are correct but Frankie was over double Nu Vibe's vote, that's how much they sucked.

2. Yes as Amelia was only a newbie that needed to build a fanbase, where as Little Mix and Marcus was in the show from start to finish so should've had a few early time slots somewhere.

3. Fair enough.

[Jack_]

Working class prejudice is still as high as ever I see.

[Mystic Mock]

You get class prejudice everywhere Jack, but I hate Tulisa for other things than being working class as I am from a working class family myself, and im sure you will find it's the same for alot of others on here aswell.

[Jamie585]

pickles

[joeysteele]

I like Tulisa and also think she is the current best mentor too.

[Petershaw1984]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Well what about when Tulisa witnessed a murder and didn't bother to call The Police?

i promise you i just choked on my crunchy nut cornflakes whikst reading that comeback.....

[Petershaw1984]

i get loyalty and all that but not being able to understand or see peoples points about the the suckle monster is, a bit barmy