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Old 29-10-2012, 10:54 AM #1
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Mark Langridge didn’t want children, but his lesbian friends did – so he agreed to donate his sperm.

Now his ‘act of kindness’ has come back to haunt him 13 years later, after he received a letter demanding child support payments.

Mr Langridge has not spoken to the family he helped create since 2004.

He was not named on the birth certificates of the two children, and played no role in their upbringing – but the Child Support Agency insists he has to pay £26 a week to support them.

He says he cannot afford the payments, which will add up to £8,000 before both children reach adulthood.
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Basically a gay man donated his sperm to a lesbian couple to help them have 2 kids. The lesbian couple have split up and now the biological mother wants cash off him.

What do you think of this?

Personally I think he was a bit daft for not getting some kind of legal arangement, but would you really think at the time that people you helped would be so bitter further down the line? I think this woman should be ashamed of herself tbh.
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Completely selfish on her behalf. He shouldn't have any obligation to pay child support if this was a sperm donation... but it doesn't sound formal, which is a problem I imagine. Will probably result in a drawn-out court case that's eventually thrown out / he's found innocent, and the reputation of homosexuality and adoptive parenthood will be dragged through the mud by the usual suspects.
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Completely selfish on her behalf. He shouldn't have any obligation to pay child support if this was a sperm donation... but it doesn't sound formal, which is a problem I imagine. Will probably result in a drawn-out court case that's eventually thrown out / he's found innocent, and the reputation of homosexuality and adoptive parenthood will be dragged through the mud by the usual suspects.
Apparently the court case would cost in the region of £60k.
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He was very naive, the woman should be ashamed of herself.
Just shows what damage can be done with a turkey baster... haha!
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disgusting from the woman trying to get cash off on him. He did her a good deed for nothing, now she wants to hold him responsible for doing something nice for her? I can't imagine any court that would support her. what a stupid bitch. This sounds like a rotten horrible bitch,. and i feel sorry for this guy who thought he was doing something nice, only to have this psycho horrible bitch try to punish him for his good deed.

I have no faith in the British Justice system at all so i have no idea how this will turn out, but this woman sounds like a true ungrateful bitch.
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Does not sound fair on him,
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Few extra details in the guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012...?newsfeed=true

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Back then it was impossible for women to use official sperm banks unless they had a male partner – something that is no longer the case.

Changes to the law mean that if Langridge made the donation today in similar circumstances he wouldn't be financially liable for the children, and he has called for the law governing this area to be applied retrospectively. It is thought that there are several other men caught up in the same position.
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He says he only agreed to it after being given repeated assurances that the couple were financially secure and would need no financial input from him at any stage. He was told by the mother that he was not named on the child's birth certificate, and that the mother's story would be that she'd had a fling and that the father had gone back to the US.
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..I guess there's a lesson for the future in there..with something so important as a life, all legalities should be looked at, even if it were the closest of friends....

...I think it's the lowest of blows..what a horrible woman she must be...
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Poor guy.

This is why you shouldn't do nice things for other people
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i feel no pitty for this dick!
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welfare queens disgust me. They should take her children away from her if she can't support them. that's my opinion. Trying to fleece other people to support her family disgusts me.
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Interesting view, care to expand on it? Do you mean the woman is a dick, or the man?
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welfare queens disgust me. They should take her children away from her if she can't support them. that's my opinion. Trying to fleece other people to support her family disgusts me.
if they take them away someone else will be paying for them!

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Interesting view, care to expand on it? Do you mean the woman is a dick, or the man?
he is a dick for giving his sperm not once but twice,
what did he think was going to happen! and when the kids get to that age when they want to know who there father was,
he has had 13 free years, its csa chaseing him more than the woman.
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if they take them away someone else will be paying for them!
but atleast they won't be raised by some welfare queen with no morals. I'd prefer they were raised by a home that is monitored by the state than by this pathetic woman who obviously has no sense of right and wrong.
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he is a dick for giving his sperm not once but twice,
what did he think was going to happen! and when the kids get to that age when they want to know who there father was,
he has had 13 free years, its csa chaseing him more than the woman.
sorry, but donating your sperm under these circumstances means he should now be responsible as a parent?? are you kidding?? he only donated his sperm under the EXPLICIT condition that he DOESN'T want to be a parent. that should be respected.

They would be perfectly happy to raise his child without any of his input if the relationship had worked out, but now that this dumb welfare queen has no money, she's trying to fleece him.

No part of the agreement of him giving his sperm included being responsible for the children. The 2 women that were starting a family have the responsibility, not him.

You have a very twisted and disgusting sense of logic if you think he owes anything to that woman or those children. They used his sperm to start a family, and were perfectly happy to exclude him completely before they broke up. SO why should he be in any way responsible just because their plan fell apart?
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but atleast they won't be raised by some welfare queen with no morals. I'd prefer they were raised by a home that is monitored by the state than by this pathetic woman who obviously has no sense of right and wrong.
their mother will love them more than the state!
its the state that is chaseing this man for the money,i read somewhere that if you dont give the name of the parent you will lose benefits.
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Well the woman seems like selfish, desperate cow to be trying to scrounge money off him like this. It suggests to me that her ability to actually look after the kids should be called into question for acting this way.
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sorry, but donating your sperm under these circumstances means he should now be responsible as a parent?? are you kidding?? he only donated his sperm under the EXPLICIT condition that he DOESN'T want to be a parent. that should be respected.

They would be perfectly happy to raise his child without any of his input if the relationship had worked out, but now that this dumb welfare queen has no money, she's trying to fleece him.

No part of the agreement of him giving his sperm included being responsible for the children. The 2 women that were starting a family have the responsibility, not him.

You have a very twisted and disgusting sense of logic if you think he owes anything to these women.
he might as well of wrote that agreement in his sperm for all the good it wil do!.
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Well the woman seems like selfish, desperate cow to be trying to scrounge money off him like this. It suggests to me that her ability to actually look after the kids should be called into question for acting this way.
she has done it for 13 years!
and like i said it will be csa chaseing him not her.
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she has done it for 13 years!
and like i said it will be csa chaseing him not her.
so he has had absolutely no contact with these children for 13 years, and now that the welfare queen is in a tough spot, he'
s expected to be a father? are you kidding me?

They set up a family of 2 parents, those 2 parents are responsible. He is NOT one of the two parents.

Any court that finds that he is responsible for those children is a joke.

this case offends me as a gay person, because it totally obliviates the idea of 2 gay parents being THE parents. the idea, that if it doesn't work out, some welfare queen can then go after the sperm donor, it's just wrong.

It's SO obviously wrong.
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Absolute Nonsense, once sperm is donated it ceases to be his responsibility (unless of course he donates it into his girlfriend) he has no legal or moral duty to any children that result. This is the main reason why sperm donators never know where the sperm ends up and the sperm recipients are only told general genetic information regarding the man.
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he is a dick for giving his sperm not once but twice,
what did he think was going to happen! and when the kids get to that age when they want to know who there father was,
he has had 13 free years, its csa chaseing him more than the woman.
I don't think he thought this was going to happen - he thought he was doing a good deed for a friend and had their word that he would assume no responsibility I'd call it a bloody selfless and generous thing...unfortunately he did not have your cynical views obviously.... He is foolish for not getting some legal advice prior...

Anyone who has had problems conceiving or issues such as this would / should have been eternally grateful for someone who had given them the greatest gift - not thrown it back in his face years down the line....

The woman has given his name to the CSA so ultimately it is down to her....
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Absolute Nonsense, once sperm is donated it ceases to be his responsibility (unless of course he donates it into his girlfriend) he has no legal or moral duty to any children that result. This is the main reason why sperm donators never know where the sperm ends up and the sperm recipients are only told general genetic information regarding the man.
the law in this case says its his responsibility.
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