[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I was fondled whilst pregnant by my consultant at the LGI wonder if he was in on it?

Omg, that's awful. I take it he's been arrested?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Omg, that's awful. I take it he's been arrested?

He was yes, I found out via a friend who had the same consultant at that time.
She was not assaulted but remembers the strange questions.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I do know the difference...
He asked a lot of rather inappropriate questions too... I was naive so just answered them.
It wasen't untill a few years after I heard he had been caught.

My apologies .....

I thought you were joking .....

Was there a court case .....

[Omah]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/se...#ixzz2AlypGLgS

Relatives of Jimmy Savile’s great-niece have reportedly attacked her on Facebook for speaking out about the star molesting her.

The abuse comes after Caroline Robinson claimed that as a 12-year-old she was abused in a room full of relatives, including her late-grandmother - Savile’s sister - who told her “don’t worry, it’s only Jimmy”.

But far from rallying round to support the 49-year-old, who claims she was abused by Savile for a second time when aged 15, Mrs Robinson says her living relatives have instead taken to Facebook to accuse her of lying and “bringing shame on the family”.

Mrs Robinson’s brother Martin Perry allegedly posted: “You are not right in the head.”

He went on: “You have brought shame on all the Marsdens by lying, there will be a nice long line of people wanting to smack you? Never again will I think I have a sister.”

Her niece Louise Perry added: “No one in the family has a clue what you are on about. For you to paint such an awful picture of the family is beyond my belief.”

And Jane Perry, married to Mrs Robinson’s other brother Philip, said: “What a load of bollocks.”

Speaking to the Sun, Mrs Robinson said: “It’s just disgusting. They are the very people I thought I would get support from. I expected it from other folk who did not know but from family is different.”

Mrs Robinson has reported the Facebook abuse to the police, but an officer visiting her home apparently told her there was little they could do.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

My apologies .....

I thought you were joking .....

Was there a court case .....

Yep, he was jailed for 18 months and struck off.
Can't post links atm, his name is vinall.

[Omah]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1762007.stm

A consultant gynaecologist used his position to carry out a series of indecent assaults on more than 20 patients, a court heard on Tuesday.
Paul Vinall, 55, touched the women intimately either on their breasts or genitals while they were completely naked "under the pretext of being a necessary physical examination", a jury at Sheffield Crown Court was told.

Paul Worsley QC, prosecuting, said the doctor preyed on the "vulnerability" of his patients and even personally removed the underwear of some women during consultations in a "wholly unjustified manner".

"He was using his position as a consultant to carry out indecent assaults on those ladies in the course of those examinations,

Charges denied

"confident that they trusted him, that they would not complain or that he could always produce an explanation that in his work, touching a lady in a particular manner was appropriate," added Mr Worsley.

Mr Vinall is a consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist who has worked at various hospitals and private clinics in Yorkshire, including Leeds General Infirmary and Wharfedale General Hospital, Otley.

He denies 31 counts of indecent assault on 22 patients between 1981 and 2000.

Mr Worsley told the jury that the alleged sexual assaults were carried out by Vinall "in a manner which gave him some personal satisfaction".

On one occasion, Vinall touched a woman's breasts with one hand while inserting his fingers into her vagina after she had been told to take all her clothes off.

'No clinical purpose'

Another patient alleged that Vinall fondled her breasts as she was kneeling on all fours completely naked.

Just as you said .....

Gynaecologist guilty of indecent assault

A consultant gynaecologist has been given an 18-month suspended sentence after being found guilty of indecently assaulting two of his patients.

Dr Paul Vinall, 55, was found guilty of the two charges at Sheffield Crown Court on Friday and cleared of three other charges.

A further 26 were ordered to remain on file.

The consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist, who worked at various hospitals and private clinics in Yorkshire, had denied 31 counts of indecent assault on 22 patients between 1981 and 2000.

The judge, Mr Justice Crane, told Vinall that his career has ended in "shame and humiliation".

He said that Vinall, of Asel Pasture, Leeds, had betrayed the absolute trust of his patients, embarrassing and humiliating at least two of them.

During the trial, the jury heard a series of allegations that Vinall had misused his position by touching women inappropriately "under the pretext of being necessary physical examinations."

The two guilty charges date back to 1991 and 1995 and occurred at private consulting rooms Vinall used across West Yorkshire.

Both counts involved Vinall conducting "inappropriate" examinations on women.

The first involved a 48-year-old nurse and midwife and the second related to a 34-year-old woman.

Vinall has been suspended since July 2000, following the complaints to the NHS helpline by patients.

Vinall will automatically be struck off the General Medical Council for a minimum of five years, effectively meaning the end of his career.

Mr Justice Crane said because he had failed to plead guilty to any of the charges, Vinall had put the women through the embarrassment and humiliation of giving evidence.

Personally, I don't think that sentence is harsh enough for what he did to dozens of women .....

..... and to think that you went through it, too, kizzy .....

[Kizzy]

It was 1997, I was 24 and trusted him completely.
Looking back I should have told someone, thats what all these kids must have thought.
Who would believe me? maybe I was overreacting?
He should have got longer, wonder how many more there are like me who didn't speak up?

[Ammi]

..I've just read what happened Kizzy..that's dreadful, I'm glad the guy was convicted..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I've just read what happened Kizzy..that's dreadful, I'm glad the guy was convicted..

Thanks ammi It's a shame that saviles victims never saw him punished whilst he was alive.

[Ammi]

..yeah, but hopefully anyone else who was involved will be held accountable...

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Looking back I should have told someone, thats what all these kids must have thought.
Who would believe me? maybe I was overreacting?

Yeah, exactly ..... without corroboration, you'd be accused of fantasizing .....

[Kizzy]

Definately, my view is they have only scratched the surface.
I would go so far as to say the systematic abuse of children in local authority care has been ongoing and widespread for years.
Nick Davis wrote a book on it...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Yeah, exactly ..... without corroboration, you'd be accused of fantasizing .....

I don't know about 'fantasizing'...
if I had known at the time of another person that felt something was not right about their treatment, I would have felt more confident to take it further yes.

[arista]

"NYT writer accuses Mark Thompson
of 'wilful ignorance' over Jimmy Savile"


Former BBC Boss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...s-jimmy-savile

[Omah]

Originally Posted by arista

"NYT writer accuses Mark Thompson
of 'wilful ignorance' over Jimmy Savile"


Former BBC Boss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...s-jimmy-savile

"New York Times Company chairman Arthur Sulzberger is in a difficult spot. He believes strongly that he's got the executive he needs to lead the Times to the promised land of healthy profits again," Nocera said in conclusion.

"Although he declined to be interviewed for this column, he appears to have accepted Thompson's insistence that he knew nothing about the explosive allegations that became public literally 50 days after he accepted the Times job."

Knowing nothing is not exactly an expression of competence .....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20147834

Former staff at the Duncroft Approved School were not questioned by Surrey Police during their 2007 inquiry into sex abuse claims against Jimmy Savile.

The force said it decided not to speak to workers unless there was proof that they had seen or knew about the abuse.

Three ex-residents at the home claimed to have been abused by Savile in the 1970s, but prosecutors found there was insufficient evidence to take action.

Police are probing claims the late TV star abused about 300 young people.

Earlier, former detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas claimed that Duncroft's head teacher at the time of the alleged abuse - Margaret Jones - was unaware of the police investigation until she read about it in the newspapers.

He told the Daily Telegraph the 2007 investigation "offered the best opportunity to catch Savile".

He added: "It raises questions about why the one person who could have provided information was not spoken to.

"She [Ms Jones] could have provided important background information about the girls and Savile."

A spokeswoman for Surrey Police said officers had spoken to 22 former residents of the girls' school in 2007, and the children's charity Barnado's, which was running the home at the time of the allegations.

She said: "Barnardo's informed us they had no record of any allegations of sexual abuse reported to staff during this period.

"A decision was made not to interview former staff unless there was evidence to suggest they witnessed abuse or were made aware of abuse at the time.

"None of the former residents spoken to during the course of the investigation indicated staff witnessed abuse, and stated they had not reported abuse to any staff at the time," she added.

Well, that seems more than a little remiss of the Surrey Police .....

[joeysteele]

Sorry to read about your really bad experience kizzy.There are some awful people about and in positions of trust too.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry to read about your really bad experience kizzy.There are some awful people about and in positions of trust too.

Thankyou joey as an adult you think nobody will ever take advantage of you again...and then they do.
I feel so stupid, how could I not know that was wrong?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Thankyou joey as an adult you think nobody will ever take advantage of you again...and then they do.
I feel so stupid, how could I not know that was wrong?

Was it your first pregnancy? You were not to know, we trust doctors etc and I know I would have not questioned it either. Victims of abuse always blame themselves and it is so wrong. At least you saw some justice and know he wont be in a position to do it again. Hope the bastard didn't ruin the magical time too much for you. (hug)

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...mmodation.html

Terry Pratt said the late Jim'll Fix It star was regularly handed a key to the nurses' accommodation building at Leeds General Infirmary during the late 1980s.

The ex-worker told the BBC that Savile would arrive with the girls in the early hours of the morning and then leave before dawn.

Mr Pratt said he became suspicious when Savile began arriving in the middle of the night with different girls who seemed "star-struck" and were "not streetwise".

He added that the celebrity, who was a volunteer and fund-raiser for the hospital, would make several late-night visits a month where he would ask for the key to the accommodation block, spend a few hours there and then leave at 5am.

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...tripped-honour

The Freedom of Scarborough granted to Jimmy Savile by his "second home" seven years ago is almost certain to be suspended by the council next week, with his name removed from the honours board pending the outcome of the Metropolitan Police investigation.

A decision will then be taken on whether the ceremonial link will permanently follow the street signs, plaque and gravestone which have already been removed from the Yorkshire resort, where Savile was a welcome if eccentric regular before his death last year.

Scarborough has been through the now familiar process of incredulity followed by shock and upset that a man associated with charity fundraising, clunk-click safety belt campaigns and hugely popular children's TV programmes could have such a dark side.

Savile's name will be expunged from a list of 20 individuals and groups given the freedom since the local government reforms of 1974 created the present borough. Exemption from tolls and other ceremonial privileges come with the honour, whose other holders include local resident Sir Alan Ayckbourn, the world's second most performed playwright after Shakespeare, the retired boxer Paul Ingle and the Yorkshire Regiment.

Yeah, expunge him .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Was it your first pregnancy? You were not to know, we trust doctors etc and I know I would have not questioned it either. Victims of abuse always blame themselves and it is so wrong. At least you saw some justice and know he wont be in a position to do it again. Hope the bastard didn't ruin the magical time too much for you. (hug)

No, thats another reason I felt a bit daft.
I put it to the back of my mind, it was good to read he had been convicted. I'm annoyed at myself really now, but at the time I just was not confident enough to challenge him.
No, he didn't ruin it annie thanks my son is 15 now

[Ammi]

..you weren't just young and lacking in confidence Kizzy..you were pregnant and your hormones were all over the place..he exploited the whole situation and abused the trust placed in him, not just with you but with others..you have nothing to be annoyed with yourself about....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..you weren't just young and lacking in confidence Kizzy..you were pregnant and your hormones were all over the place..he exploited the whole situation and abused the trust placed in him, not just with you but with others..you have nothing to be annoyed with yourself about....

You're right ammi, it does make you think though, when there are cases like this the ones we know about are just the tip of the iceberg. (shudder)

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...mmy-savile-itv

Doctors and managers at Stoke Mandeville hospital were afraid to challenge Jimmy Savile over the free access he enjoyed to wards, out of fear that he would take his fundraising millions elsewhere, a former director of nursing has said, as fresh claims emerged of abuse at the hospital and elsewhere.

Christine McFarlane, former director of nursing and patient care at the Buckinghamshire hospital where Savile volunteered for many years, said the TV star "basically ... had the freedom to walk wherever he wanted" and maintained a powerful position thanks to "subtle bullying" of hospital managers.

In an interview with ITV news , McFarlane said managers "didn't fight that hard" to challenge Savile, who had almost single-handedly raised millions of pounds for the hospital, including the funds to establish its famous spinal unit. "There was a fine balance ... to reach in not upsetting Jimmy."

Medical staff's gratitude for his fundraising efforts had given him a great deal of power within the hospital, she said. "Along with the power, people were afraid of Jimmy stopping raising money for the hospital. There was a fear of him taking something away. He argued that it was his and not theirs."

The diabolical machinations of Savile .....