Originally Posted by the truth

shouldnt people be more sympathtic for this alleged pervert? Didnt nature just make him this way? in which case was he powerless to act on his sexual desires?

You really post some bizarre stuff. Sexuality is decided by our genes, so he was powerless to choose who he was attracted to. However, he acted his fantasies out, and that is both morally and legally wrong, which contravenes laws we have in this country to protect children.

In your world, then god creates perverts to harm children for the purpose of free will. Maybe you would prefer Lots example, who offers up his virgin daughters to be gang raped in order to protect a couple of house guests?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You really post some bizarre stuff. Sexuality is decided by our genes, so he was powerless to choose who he was attracted to. However, he acted his fantasies out, and that is both morally and legally wrong, which contravenes laws we have in this country to protect children.

In your world, then god creates perverts to harm children for the purpose of free will. Maybe you would prefer Lots example, who offers up his virgin daughters to be gang raped in order to protect a couple of house guests?

He allegedly did but clearly the police failed hopelessly yet again to act and carry out a proper investigation so all we are left with is heresay 30 years later. As for laws, I notice that laws are contravened by other people such as the labour council that broke civil laws to break up that foster family? Also there are laws of slander so when this witch hunt continues we hear more people wrongfully named by militant liberals.

As for your last paragraph, thats the most disgusting vile Ive ever read in my life. I shall duly report it. Its not only sick and perverted but its 100% false. Any rapists should be investigated properly, the police should do their job properly. If found guilty they should be locked away for a very long time, in some cases for life. However to name shame and destroy people before theyve had a fair hearing is not only wrong it also ruins any chance of a fair trial.

Originally Posted by the truth

He allegedly did but clearly the police failed hopelessly yet again to act and carry out a proper investigation so all we are left with is heresay 30 years later. As for laws, I notice that laws are contravened by other people such as the labour council that broke civil laws to break up that foster family? Also there are laws of slander so when this witch hunt continues we hear more people wrongfully named by militant liberals.

As for your last paragraph, thats the most disgusting vile Ive ever read in my life. I shall duly report it. Its not only sick and perverted but its 100% false. Any rapists should be investigated properly, the police should do their job properly. If found guilty they should be locked away for a very long time, in some cases for life. However to name shame and destroy people before theyve had a fair hearing is not only wrong it also ruins any chance of a fair trial.

Report me for what? Providing accurate information from th bible?

Lot offered his 2 daughters to be gang raped. Read your own holy book. Moses commanded his army to keep all virgins for themselves after conquests.

Report me all you like, but my higher education is history and history of religion, so I pretty much guarantee, that my knowledge of your holy book is more in depth to yours. Argue any points that you wish, and point out my innacuracies, but please don't cry foul play when someone calls out your insanity.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

He allegedly did but clearly the police failed hopelessly yet again to act and carry out a proper investigation so all we are left with is heresay 30 years later. As for laws, I notice that laws are contravened by other people such as the labour council that broke civil laws to break up that foster family? Also there are laws of slander so when this witch hunt continues we hear more people wrongfully named by militant liberals.

As for your last paragraph, thats the most disgusting vile Ive ever read in my life. I shall duly report it. Its not only sick and perverted but its 100% false. Any rapists should be investigated properly, the police should do their job properly. If found guilty they should be locked away for a very long time, in some cases for life. However to name shame and destroy people before theyve had a fair hearing is not only wrong it also ruins any chance of a fair trial.

Oh, I thought that we should see things from their point of view and show empathy?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JH95

Oh, I thought that we should see things from their point of view and show empathy?

I merely asked the question, should we try and understand it? clearly its illegal and depraved and so on. But the militant left run the risk of contradicting on this matter as they try to claim we are unable to control our desires whether it be for drugs or booze or whatever. I dont happen to believe that.... if we take the militant lefts liberal view, we have no control over our desires than how can we be guilty of anything as were powerless to stop it arent we?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I merely asked the question, should we try and understand it? clearly its illegal and depraved and so on. But the militant left run the risk of contradicting on this matter as they try to claim we are unable to control our desires whether it be for drugs or booze or whatever. I dont happen to believe that.... if we take the militant lefts liberal view, we have no control over our desires than how can we be guilty of anything as were powerless to stop it arent we?

It's debatable whether we are in control over what we think (although I think it's bull**** because you have to be pretty sick for 13 year old boys in that sense to pop into your mind in the first place). However, as humans, we were born with choice. If, for instance this bloke done what he done, that was his choice and therefore he is disgusting, no matter what way you look at it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You really post some bizarre stuff. Sexuality is decided by our genes, so he was powerless to choose who he was attracted to. However, he acted his fantasies out, and that is both morally and legally wrong, which contravenes laws we have in this country to protect children.

In your world, then god creates perverts to harm children for the purpose of free will. Maybe you would prefer Lots example, who offers up his virgin daughters to be gang raped in order to protect a couple of house guests?

At what point did I say I agreed with this heinous example? I didnt. so quit trying to misrepreent me with this filth.

Originally Posted by the truth

At what point did I say I agreed with this heinous example? I didnt. so quit trying to misrepreent me with this filth.

Please point out where I said you agreed with it?

I said it's in the bible, and it is.

You were obviously trying to make a smart-arsed point about it being the fault of nature.

I highlighted both the hypocrisy and absurdity of your post.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Please point out where I said you agreed with it?

I said it's in the bible, and it is.

You were obviously trying to make a smart-arsed point about it being the fault of nature.

I highlighted both the hypocrisy and absurdity of your post.

nice language, sort of exposes you. You didnt do anything of the kind. secondly thats your interpretation of that text that I dont think is accurate and even if it was I reject any form of rape. as should you. You tried to imply that I supported that filth about rape. shame on you.

Originally Posted by the truth

nice language, sort of exposes you. You didnt do anything of the kind. secondly thats your interpretation of that text that I dont think is accurate and even if it was I reject any form of rape. as should you. You tried to imply that I supported that filth about rape. shame on you.

Wow - what bizarre ramblings, and not for the first time from you, either.

It's not my interpretation of that text, it's the only interpretation that can be gleamed from it. Unless of course, you have a vested interest in believing the bible is begat, begat, begat, begat, Jesus......Da daaaaaaaaaaaa.

In order for you to believe in the holiness of the Abrahamic religion/s, then you need to be aware of how your prophets acted, and the things they did. Moses loved him some rape and slavery. Do you believe Moses was a prophet from god, and was sent to lead the Jews out of Egypt?

If so, why do you believe that part of the book, but not the part where he does things that aren't very nice?

There is no shame on me, at all. I can reject rape at face value, and I don't have to have any admiration for any rapist from history. You on the other hand.....................

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Wow - what bizarre ramblings, and not for the first time from you, either.

It's not my interpretation of that text, it's the only interpretation that can be gleamed from it. Unless of course, you have a vested interest in believing the bible is begat, begat, begat, begat, Jesus......Da daaaaaaaaaaaa.

In order for you to believe in the holiness of the Abrahamic religion/s, then you need to be aware of how your prophets acted, and the things they did. Moses loved him some rape and slavery. Do you believe Moses was a prophet from god, and was sent to lead the Jews out of Egypt?

If so, why do you believe that part of the book, but not the part where he does things that aren't very nice?

There is no shame on me, at all. I can reject rape at face value, and I don't have to have any admiration for any rapist from history. You on the other hand.....................

on the other hand what?