[Indy]

Or there's the real answer... Spencer controls Heidi. He has forced her to cut ties with her friends and family, and it's only very recently that she's even attempted to make amends with her mother, the woman Spencer refers to as "just a vagina". They will not separate because Spencer has conditioned Heidi to believe that she cannot talk to people or be on her own without him. When she says vicious things, she's saying them for his approval. Over many years he has taught her what to say and do to make him happy and what not to say and do to not make him mad.

It's a bit scary to see a textbook emotionally abusive relationship turned into a fandom on tv.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Indy

Or there's the real answer... Spencer controls Heidi. He has forced her to cut ties with her friends and family, and it's only very recently that she's even attempted to make amends with her mother, the woman Spencer refers to as "just a vagina". They will not separate because Spencer has conditioned Heidi to believe that she cannot talk to people or be on her own without him. When she says vicious things, she's saying them for his approval. Over many years he has taught her what to say and do to make him happy and what not to say and do to not make him mad.

It's a bit scary to see a textbook emotionally abusive relationship turned into a fandom on tv.

This is a good post, but sadly it will be wasted on those that cant or wont try to understand what it means.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Indy

Or there's the real answer... Spencer controls Heidi. He has forced her to cut ties with her friends and family, and it's only very recently that she's even attempted to make amends with her mother, the woman Spencer refers to as "just a vagina". They will not separate because Spencer has conditioned Heidi to believe that she cannot talk to people or be on her own without him. When she says vicious things, she's saying them for his approval. Over many years he has taught her what to say and do to make him happy and what not to say and do to not make him mad.

It's a bit scary to see a textbook emotionally abusive relationship turned into a fandom on tv.

I think she is equally as warped as him ,a match made in heaven