Originally Posted by *Kate*

Admin could decide the winner. I believe that was done for the first two series of Tibb does the Apprentice. That's just one suggestion.

But then it's a dictatorship. The vote for TIBB PM needs to be undertaken by TIBB fm's. Otherwise there is no point.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I would like to change my nomination to Kate, please. If it's possible.

Poor Arista. He'll be crying into his torn jeans.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

But then it's a dictatorship. The vote for TIBB PM needs to be undertaken by TIBB fm's. Otherwise there is no point.

Yeah, I agree with you jhc

[Jack_]

How about picking the leaders, then they all go off and create their campaigns, party names etc in secret, and then Ben presents them to us without giving away the names of who created each campaign (so it's sort of anonymous) and then we vote? And the campaign designers are revealed after the vote?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Novo

Please calm down Kizzy

[Glenn.]

How about just leaving things as they are?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

A game where fm's vote is always pretty much a popularity contest. How could it be anything else?

Well then whats the point? As seen with the game that just ended it was felt their hard work was for nothing as friends voted for friends.
If that was to happen again why go to the trouble of campaigning?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

How about picking the leaders, then they all go off and create their campaigns, party names etc in secret, and then Ben presents them to us without giving away the names of who created each campaign (so it's sort of anonymous) and then we vote? And the campaign designers are revealed after the vote?

Yeah, that's a good, fair idea Jack!

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

But then it's a dictatorship. The vote for TIBB PM needs to be undertaken by TIBB fm's. Otherwise there is no point.

True, but then it goes back to not wanting it to be a popularity contest. Which leads me nicely to this....

Originally Posted by Jack_

How about picking the leaders, then they all go off and create their campaigns, party names etc in secret, and then Ben presents them to us without giving away the names of who created each campaign (so it's sort of anonymous) and then we vote? And the campaign designers are revealed after the vote?

Jack, you should present this idea and your earlier one about policies to Ben. I think it's very feasible. It's not my decision since I'm not running it this year, but if I were then this would be where I would like to go with it.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well then whats the point? As seen with the game that just ended it was felt their hard work was for nothing as friends voted for friends.
If that was to happen again why go to the trouble of campaigning?

Agreed, but people have to firstly agree to be nominated, and then put a campaign together. It's not like it's compulsory for everyone to do it. It's like any game, you know what's involved before you start, then you work out whether you can commit the time to it.

If you'd have been able to do it, you know that there are some people that would vote for you regardless of what you wrote, and others that wouldn't vote for you if you were the only candidate. It's the floaters where this game is won.

[Lee.]

Yeah, we'd better stop trying to plan Ben's game for him.. let him make the rules

[Amy Jade]

Can I nominate Jack_?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Yeah, we'd better stop trying to plan Ben's game for him.. let him make the rules

[2].

If there was no trouble with the game last time, and everyone enjoyed it who took part, then creating solutions for problems that haven't previously existed seems a bit mad to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Agreed, but people have to firstly agree to be nominated, and then put a campaign together. It's not like it's compulsory for everyone to do it. It's like any game, you know what's involved before you start, then you work out whether you can commit the time to it.

If you'd have been able to do it, you know that there are some people that would vote for you regardless of what you wrote, and others that wouldn't vote for you if you were the only candidate. It's the floaters where this game is won.

So basically what you are saying is no matter how good/bad you are your mates will vote for you... and you can PM the rest of the forum and ask them to vote for you?... sorry but that sounds like a rubbish game.
And I'm sure that is what ben is wanting to avoid at all costs.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Yeah, we'd better stop trying to plan Ben's game for him.. let him make the rules

The rules are are in the OP They are more or less the same ones I devised when I created this event last year, and it went very well I do think Jack has good ideas which he has put forward on here, as you picked up on Lee as well.

I get the consensus about it being a popularity contest, but that's for the host to resolve.

I felt, in retrospect last year that it was a really good positive event and everyone enjoyed it, there was no arguing, it was lovely etc. The only drawback was that people were being asked to vote (which is fine, and all part of campaigning) and just agreeing and casting said vote without even knowing what it was all about. I don't know the answer to that, but Jack's idea might well ne the path to go down.

Thoughts?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Can I nominate Jack_?

Of course, but he has to accept and then someone has to second the nomination.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So basically what you are saying is no matter how good/bad you are your mates will vote for you... and you can PM the rest of the forum and ask them to vote for you?... sorry but that sounds like a rubbish game.
And I'm sure that is what ben is wanting to avoid at all costs.

Yeah, basically. The definite Yes' and nos' are the strips at the edge, but you win the game by winning the block in the middle. Just like any election.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well if kaz is backing joey I nominate kate then

Joey cant do it Kizzy,he has Uni commitments

[Kizzy]

Aw joey was great... (hehehe thats one major obstacle out of the way then)

[Cherie]

I'm not too sure how comfortable I am with being called a floater.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm not too sure how comfortable I am with being called a floater.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Thanks Ness I needed that.

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm not too sure how comfortable I am with being called a floater.

Don't worry - you're definitely not a floater.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

How about picking the leaders, then they all go off and create their campaigns, party names etc in secret, and then Ben presents them to us without giving away the names of who created each campaign (so it's sort of anonymous) and then we vote? And the campaign designers are revealed after the vote?

That's a great idea Jack