Originally Posted by Kazanne

She's getting some glowing reviews on the News channel

Most people do when they die. I'm sure George Bush will get glowing reviews when he eventually dies.

Doesn't really mean anything. The independent documentaries that will flow out will be the real measure of her impact.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

A life lived fully. Her detractors can only wish to be half as relevant to world history.

unlike the queen and royal family, she actually had to earn her place and her policies resonated with her country. She was truly the PEOPLE's Queen.

She EARNED her place in history, unlike the royal family.

Yes a State Funeral in St.Pauls
is being set up

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

A life lived fully. Her detractors can only wish to be half as relevant to world history.

unlike the queen and royal family, she actually had to earn her place and her policies resonated with her country. She was truly the PEOPLE's Queen.

She EARNED her place in history, unlike the royal family.

yes we know that but she then put millions of workers onto the scrap heap forever....she madew the gap betwene rich and poor infinitely bigger, she monopolised the utilies which results today in unaffordable bills which sees thousands of poor old people freezing to death, she raised vat so that killed off small businesses too.....she was a massive servant of the very rich....Im not saying she was all bad though. Tony blair was worse much worse.

[arista]

Well Done ITV1HD news
now doing other news


BBC1 News Stuck on Thatcher
now going onto 2PM

No need
There is other news Bloated Stupid BBC

[lostalex]

appreciate where you are. Without Thatcher would you be better off? or did she do a service for her country?

All of her detractors, i'd like to ask you, do you think she made her decisions wanting to harm to your country? or do you think she made decisions based on what she believed would be best for the UK?

I don't believe for a second that she ever wished any harm on the UK or it's people. She did her best under extremely difficult circumstances.

She made decisions based on what she believed at the time were the best decisions for your country.

She wasn't APPOINTED like the house of lords, or BORN INTO IT like the royals.

She was ELECTED.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

appreciate where you are. Without Thatcher would you be better off? or did she do a service for her country?

All of her detractors, i'd like to ask you, do you think she made her decisions wanting to harm to your country? or do you think she made decisions based on what she believed would be best for the UK?

I don't believe for a second that she ever wished any harm on the UK or it's people. She did her best under extremely difficult circumstances.

She made decisions based on what she believed at the time were the best decisions for your country.

[GiRTh]

She was a great PM cuz her influence in the country can still be seen. Personally, I think what she did to this country and what she was trying to do before she was ousted showed how out of touch she truly was and was truly deplorable. She was a great PM in terms of influence but she will never be a popular Public figure. The eulogies are gonna be fascinating for what they don't say rather than what they do say.

[Kizzy]

Well as an adult grew up in the north east, in a shadow cast by thatcherism I have to say I think you are wrong alex.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well as an adult grew up in the north east, in a shadow cast by thatcherism I have to say I think you are wrong alex.

well we don't agree on much, do we kizzy?

[Brother Leon]

Not even old enough to know much about her, but my dad curses the years she was in power.

RIP anyway. Sad for her family.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by lostalex

appreciate where you are. Without Thatcher would you be better off? or did she do a service for her country?

All of her detractors, i'd like to ask you, do you think she made her decisions wanting to harm to your country? or do you think she made decisions based on what she believed would be best for the UK?

I don't believe for a second that she ever wished any harm on the UK or it's people. She did her best under extremely difficult circumstances.

She made decisions based on what she believed at the time were the best decisions for your country.

She wasn't APPOINTED like the house of lords, or BORN INTO IT like the royals.

She was ELECTED.

What leader makes decisions that they feel will harm their country. Surely your statement could be applied to President Bush or Herbert Hoover.

Her death will have no effect on her influence or ideas, so I see no point in doing anything but offering condolences to her friends and family but that doesn't change the fact that some groups will always feel negatively about her because of her policies

[arista]

ITV does Local news, well done


Bloated BBCNews on BBC1 went non stop thatcher
No Local News


BBC getting it Wrong again

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

What leader makes decisions that they feel will harm their country. Surely your statement could be applied to President Bush or Herbert Hoover.

well there are those that believe in the conspiracy theories, that she was illuminati, and that there is a global conspiracy to hurt the middle and working classes.

there are a lot of people like that online.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by lostalex

appreciate where you are. Without Thatcher would you be better off? or did she do a service for her country?

All of her detractors, i'd like to ask you, do you think she made her decisions wanting to harm to your country? or do you think she made decisions based on what she believed would be best for the UK?

I don't believe for a second that she ever wished any harm on the UK or it's people. She did her best under extremely difficult circumstances.

She made decisions based on what she believed at the time were the best decisions for your country.

She wasn't APPOINTED like the house of lords, or BORN INTO IT like the royals.

She was ELECTED.

There is no question in my mind that she DID NOT make decisions that were best for the UK. She made decision that possibly increased the class divide and made the spread of wealth more uneven. The poll tax/community charge is exhibit A. How can anyone argue that was for the good of the country? The miners strike was simply about winning to show how powerful she was and definitely not for the good of the country. I could go on but those are two of the top of my head.

[lostalex]

^^ see above.

[Brother Leon]

Uncle's text FFS.

"A party on Derby day on two accounts let's hope"

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well there are those that believe in the conspiracy theories, that she was illuminati, and that there is a global conspiracy to hurt the middle and working classes.

there are a lot of people like that online.

as much as I would love if the illuminati were real, I don't think anyone can give serious credence to it

[Omah]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes a State Funeral in St.Pauls
is being set up

Well, I've set up the bonfire and I've just started work on the Witch - I want the effigy to as lifelike as possible .....

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I have say I do not think she was a great lady, I agree she was a successful Prime Minister but her actions were questionable during the Falklands War when she ordered the strike on the General Belgrano which was leaving the theatre of operations at that time. I also think her crusade against the Miners and Unions in general was over zealous and heartless destroying whole communities en masse. I also think her introducing the "Poll Tax" was another badly thought out and unjust law.

A good Prime Minister....maybe , a great lady....... no I think not !!!!!

This.

RIP MT and condolences to her family.

Meanwhile that must be a few points for someone playing the deathlist game. :

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

There is no question in my mind that she DID NOT make decisions that were best for the UK. She made decision that possibly increased the class divide and made the spread of wealth more uneven. The poll tax/community charge is exhibit A. How can anyone argue that was for the good of the country? The miners strike was simply about winning to show how powerful she was and definitely not for the good of the country. I could go on but those are two of the top of my head.

Exactamundo, the onus is on amassing the greatest wealth for a select few.
What does this remind you of?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Exactamundo, the onus is on amassing the greatest wealth for a select few.
What does this remind you of?

no, the ONUS is on the British people and their democratic system, because she was democratically elected. She was elected by and supported by the PEOPLE of the UK. and it's unfair to put the onus on a single person in a democratic system.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lostalex

appreciate where you are. Without Thatcher would you be better off? or did she do a service for her country?

All of her detractors, i'd like to ask you, do you think she made her decisions wanting to harm to your country? or do you think she made decisions based on what she believed would be best for the UK?

I don't believe for a second that she ever wished any harm on the UK or it's people. She did her best under extremely difficult circumstances.

She made decisions based on what she believed at the time were the best decisions for your country.

She wasn't APPOINTED like the house of lords, or BORN INTO IT like the royals.

She was ELECTED.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Tony Blair was elected three times, does that make him a great man despite the warmongering in Iraq?

[lostalex]

You can't claim to be a democratic country and then place all the blame on a single leader.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, the ONUS is on the british people and their democratic system, because she was democratically elected.

And when she won the 2nd election that was the catalyst for her to change the course of the country for ever.

I will never forget when she cried as she lost the leadership. The shot of her wiping away the tears on the news. Did she cry for all the miners who lost their jobs, house, families etc? Did she cry for the people suffering under the poll tax? She cried when she finally realised that net had closed in, it was all over and she'd lost all the power she'd stepped on so many people to acquire. It summed her up.

Obviously, this is a terrible tragedy for her family but lets not lose sight of what Margaret Thatcher was really about.