[James]

The poster asked for his location to be taken off the forum.

[Kizzy]

okily dokily. Still blew his theory out of the water though.

[InOne]

You didn't disprove anything kizzy as I've not really aired my views on the matter...

[Kizzy]

ok..

[James]

I think a lot of people get their political views from their close family, which will be influenced by the area they are from.

Also the job you have makes a big difference to how you vote. People who work in the public sector are going to be much more likely to vote Labour as that party generally favours the public sector over private.

[Kizzy]

Well my views come from political education as part of a degree so that throws that theory out in my case.
But you may have a point.

[Jack_]

Well my views come from education and reading I'd say but if I hadn't done that I'd have certainly ended up with similar views to my parents as no matter how much you try to ask for an impartial explanation of political parties, policies and events from your parents (which I did a few years back), you're generally always going to end up with a fairly one-sided answer, and until I educated myself I had no reason to think any differently. So I think unless you've taken the time or had a political kind of education, your views will always either stem from your parents, social background, career or (unfortunately) the media (or rather what media outlets and platforms you make use of).

[the truth]

if something affects you directly the effect is far more profound

[Omah]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...vages-thatcher

Today's parliamentary tribute to Margaret Thatcher came to life with the intervention of Glenda Jackson. The Labour MP for Hampstead declared that Thatcher wreaked "the most heinous, social, economic and spiritual damage upon this country", later adding: "a woman? not on my terms".

Jackson was jeered and booed by Tory MPs, with Tony Baldry arguing in a point of order that her speech was against the "conventions of the House" as "this is not and has never been a general debate on the memory of the person who has been deceased, but an opportunity for tribute". But John Bercow rejected the criticism, stating that "nothing unparliamentary has occurred".

"We are debating a motion that says ‘this House has considered the matter of tributes to the Baroness Thatcher’ - that is what we are doing and nothing has got in the way of that."

Good for Bercow .....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well my views come from education and reading I'd say but if I hadn't done that I'd have certainly ended up with similar views to my parents as no matter how much you try to ask for an impartial explanation of political parties, policies and events from your parents (which I did a few years back), you're generally always going to end up with a fairly one-sided answer, and until I educated myself I had no reason to think any differently. So I think unless you've taken the time or had a political kind of education, your views will always either stem from your parents, social background, career or (unfortunately) the media (or rather what media outlets and platforms you make use of).

I'd go with this mostly too, my Parents are Conservative,I have been interested in politics since I was very young though,I recall watching the 1997 with my Dad when I was only 5, the first night I had been allowed to stay up most of the night.

However as I got older I became more interested in politics and am doing politics at Uni, in the last 5 years I have virtually crossed the political divide and now have far more leaning to Labour.
Having said that though, after him doing so for his lifetime so far in voting Conservative,even my Dad has said he is not going to in 2015.

He was a great supporter of Margaret Thatcher though and he is saddened by her death but he also understands the other very deep and hostile feelings towards her even in death from others.
I was talking to him yesterday, he said she was someone who stuck to her principles and what she had said,by the same token though the people who disliked her intensely should not have to become hypocrites now and start being nice about her if that is not what they feel or think.

I agree with that too.
I respect my Parents view and what they have stood for politically but I make my own mind up and after really researching and getting into politics I have come to the view that I am more in tune with Labour now definitely and even more so after the heartless policies of this Govt.

Margaret Thatcher has left a political legacy, that although heavily divisive, will be constantly looked back on with the effects felt for likely decades to come still, good or bad, that cannot be denied her.

[thesheriff443]

my view comes from this quote from Abraham Lincoln.

“You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

my view comes from this quote from Abraham Lincoln.

“You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”

Exactly,sheriff simple as.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Exactly,sheriff simple as.

hello
for every winner there has to be a loser.

[arista]

Teachers of hatred: The drama mistress and the master from Miliband's school who helped organise the Maggie 'death parties'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Q8yenNud


"Sick: Special needs teacher Craig Parr,
employed at 'Labour's Eton' in north London,
is celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher in Brixton "


[The drama teacher, who works with
the young and 'potentially criminalised
individuals' is believed to have rallied
thousands for the 'death parties']








Sign Of The Times

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by arista

Sign Of The Times

The times that she help create. What goes around comes around. She deserves no more than she's getting.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd go with this mostly too, my Parents are Conservative,I have been interested in politics since I was very young though,I recall watching the 1997 with my Dad when I was only 5, the first night I had been allowed to stay up most of the night.

However as I got older I became more interested in politics and am doing politics at Uni, in the last 5 years I have virtually crossed the political divide and now have far more leaning to Labour.
Having said that though, after him doing so for his lifetime so far in voting Conservative,even my Dad has said he is not going to in 2015.

He was a great supporter of Margaret Thatcher though and he is saddened by her death but he also understands the other very deep and hostile feelings towards her even in death from others.
I was talking to him yesterday, he said she was someone who stuck to her principles and what she had said,by the same token though the people who disliked her intensely should not have to become hypocrites now and start being nice about her if that is not what they feel or think.

I agree with that too.
I respect my Parents view and what they have stood for politically but I make my own mind up and after really researching and getting into politics I have come to the view that I am more in tune with Labour now definitely and even more so after the heartless policies of this Govt.

Margaret Thatcher has left a political legacy, that although heavily divisive, will be constantly looked back on with the effects felt for likely decades to come still, good or bad, that cannot be denied her.

It's the opposite with me Joey,my parents were always Labour voters,I had their views drummed into me from an early age and I always followed suit until the last Labour government got in power,I then took a lot more notice of politics and although I don't fully understand it all I find it very interesting,I also understand to get the country back on it's feet we have to be cruel to be kind 'tough love' as they say,it's no good pussy footing about giving people what they want all the time,people are spoilt they claim they have nothing etc,but the majority have mobiles,laptops,video consoles,flat screen TVs ,fags drink etc,so although I aknowledge some people are struggling,some that moan are not,so for me David Cameron is my choice at the moment,he hasn't got everything right but I can see where he is coming from,he is doing what he thinks is right and not doing things to be popular,as for Margaret Thatcher,my parents disliked her,but but they certainly aren't partying at her death,I have such a lot to learn about politics,so I may just have to pick your knowlegable brain Joey Your posts are always interesting and thought provoking.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

hello
for every winner there has to be a loser.

Yes sheriff,that's life it needs to be accepted.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes sheriff,that's life it needs to be accepted.

It's not, and it doesn't. Not when it comes to politics.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's not, and it doesn't. Not when it comes to politics.

once you come to terms with the fact that life is not fair then you can move on.
make the best of what you have, do the best you can and that's all you can do.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The times that she help create. What goes around comes around. She deserves no more than she's getting.

She can take it.


Not sure about her kids

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=arista;5930436]She can take it.


Not sure about her kids[/QUOTE]

They are hardly kids. They could have avoided alot of this by having a private funeral ceremony, this circus is going to carry on now until next Wednesday at the very least.

[Omah]

[QUOTE=Cherie;5930444]

Originally Posted by arista

She can take it.


Not sure about her kids[/QUOTE]

They are hardly kids. They could have avoided alot of this by having a private funeral ceremony, this circus is going to carry on now until next Wednesday at the very least.

The kids will do anything to qualify for the inheritance .....

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

once you come to terms with the fact that life is not fair then you can move on.
make the best of what you have, do the best you can and that's all you can do.

Life doesn't have to be fair, but you don't need your own politicians to rig the game against those with the least. My issues with her aren't that she showed the citizens how life isn't fair, it's that she purposefully made it that way.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Life doesn't have to be fair, but you don't need your own politicians to rig the game against those with the least. My issues with her aren't that she showed the citizens how life isn't fair, it's that she purposefully made it that way.

Totally agree.