Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not going to Swaffham, not even for you. Only two surnames in the whole town.

One double-barreled surname doesn't really count as two.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

why not wait until Stewart Hall is 92 there's bound to be a lot more people that were abused by him ready to come forward by then.

Better still why not wait until he's dead and then let the floodgates really open, who knows we might have 400 or 500 people suddenly remember that 50 years ago they too were abused by this man (A bit like Jimmy Savile)

The whole thing is nasty, spiteful contrived nonsense....!!!!!

I know you and I don't always agree Nedusa, but I'm right behind you on this one.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

One double-barreled surname doesn't really count as two.

Especially when it's Partridge-Partridge.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

I know you and I don't always agree Nedusa, but I'm right behind you on this one.

Thanks Livia, the more I read about these stories and others related to the JS story the more cynical I become. Its almost as if the Press are on a non stop bandwagon for more and more lurid stories involving ageing male Celebrities living or dead (but preferrably living).

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

If I may say so, you're the one being rude by persistently asking me hypothetical questions about a court case about which we know very little except the charges, one of which you have extrapolated into some some sort of father/daughter scenario .....

All we know is that the 9-year-old who is now 39 years old who alleges that she was "touched" (by Hall) some time (in the 12 months) between January 1, 1983 and December 31, 1983 (in a location not specified).

Anyone who has been juror would want (and wait) to hear more details and consider any "evidence".

No you may not say so, I did not attempt to humiliate you with unnecessary mocking comments.
I asked you a hypothetical question yes, if you did not wish to respond that is your choice.
My view is that however historic the abuse a victim has the right to justice.
As you say we shall see what the outcome is based on the evidence they have.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Thanks Livia, the more I read about these stories and others related to the JS story the more cynical I become. Its almost as if the Press are on a non stop bandwagon for more and more lurid stories involving ageing male Celebrities living or dead (but preferrably living).

I would like to see a few of those accused, once acquitted, to pursue private prosecutions against those who waited three decades to air their grievances.

[bbfan1991]

Former radio and television presenter Stuart Hall charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault http://itv.co/Vit9r5

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

Former radio and television presenter Stuart Hall charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault http://itv.co/Vit9r5

The indecent assault offences are alleged to have been committed between 1967 and 1986 and to involve 10 girls aged between nine and 16-years-old.

The rape is alleged to have been committed in 1976 against a 22 year old woman.

Presumably, these charges are additional to:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21154999

Mr Hall pleaded not guilty to three charges of indecent assault when he appeared at Preston Magistrates' Court earlier this month. The court referred these charges to Preston Crown Court.

We shall now have to wait for the court proceedings to obtain the details .....

[cobdo]

took 37 years to get him in court??????? hope they got good evidence cos theyll need it. to be honest ....you could arrest EVERY band member from every 70s band if ya wanted to dig that deep...................no chance of conviction unless he admits the lot.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21365111

Broadcaster Stuart Hall has appeared in court charged with one count of rape and 14 counts of indecent assault.

The 83-year-old, from Wilmslow, Cheshire, appeared at Preston Magistrates' Court to face the charges.

The charges relate to an alleged rape of a 22-year-old woman and indecent assault of 10 girls aged nine to 16.

The BBC presenter has previously pleaded not guilty to three charges of indecent assault and will face trial over those charges in April.

Mr Hall, who spoke only to confirm his name and address, was bailed to appear at Preston Crown Court on 1 March.

[arista]

Yes he says he is Not Guilty

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21629747

Broadcaster Stuart Hall has appeared in court charged with one count of rape and 14 counts of indecent assault.

The 83-year-old from Wilmslow, Cheshire, spoke only to confirm his name in the eight-minute preliminary hearing at Preston Crown Court.

The case was adjourned until 16 April when he is expected to enter a plea. A provisional trial date has been set for 2 October.

[arista]

Stuart Hall Admits Sex Assaults On Children


http://news.sky.com/story/1085935/st...ts-on-children

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aged-9-17.html


Guilty: Stuart Hall arrives at Preston Crown Court today,
with solicitor Maurice Watkins,
where he has admitted historic sex allegations

[Omah]

"Whether in public or private, Hall would first approach under friendly pretences and then bide his time until the victim was isolated. He can only be described as an opportunistic predator."

[GiRTh]

he's gonna go to jail for this.

[Omah]

Hall, 83, admitted 14 charges of indecent assault and the offences took place between 1967 and 1985.

He entered the guilty pleas last month at Preston Crown Court. However, they can only be revealed now after reporting restrictions were lifted.

He admitted touching and kissing 13 young victims over nearly two decades, many were daughters of friends.

Hall was facing 18 charges. A court order was lifted so that the pleas could be reported.

It was to avoid prejudicing a possible future trial on a count of rape and three separate counts of indecent assault which Hall had denied last month.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

he's gonna go to jail for this.

Yes
if he does not Top himself first

[Nedusa]

Maybe they could open a new Prison wing for Celebrity Paedophiles, at the current rate of disclosure it would fill up in no time......!!!!!

[GiRTh]

The way the pleas are structured it seems like there may be quite a lot of evidence against him. They might send him down for quite a lengthy time.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286

Mr Afzal said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) would not be proceeding with the rape charge as the woman who made the allegation no longer wished to give evidence in light of the guilty pleas.

I guess that she's hoping that he'll die in chokey ....

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286



I guess that she's hoping that he'll die in chokey ....

If I read the above quote correctly, it is saying that this lady will not give evidence in Court relating to her "rape" by Hall and in light of his guilty plea to molestation charges she is happy for the rape charge to be dropped.

But the inference is that he is guilty of child rape but because he's old and has pleaded guilty to lesser charges there is no need to prove rape.

Hmmnn ??? so basically everyone will now believe he is a child rapist and he will be despised and hated in equal measure.

But legally he is being convicted of indecent behaviour ie putting his hand up a young girls skirt. Still disgusting and reprehensible but its NOT child rape there is an enormous difference between the two.......

I guess the end result will not look that different in any case ie convicted sex offender name on sex offenders register, good name gone , reputation gone, despised by all , avoided by all family & friends, Showbiz career disappeared even faster.....what a sick stupid man....!!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The way the pleas are structured it seems like there may be quite a lot of evidence against him. They might send him down for quite a lengthy time.

Yes with his Bad Heart he may Die Soon
that saves us money

[joeysteele]

What a mess, what on earth too was the BBC hierarchy doing with all these things supposedly going on,in fact were going on.

This guy has made himself look pathetic and for those still waiting to be charged or who have been, people will be now thinking, well Stuart Hall eventually pleaded guilty so clearly was.

Sick,just totally sick.

[Kazanne]

All I can say is dirty old bastard

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What a mess, what on earth too was the BBC hierarchy doing with all these things supposedly going on,in fact were going on.

This guy has made himself look pathetic and for those still waiting to be charged or who have been, people will be now thinking, well Stuart Hall eventually pleaded guilty so clearly was.

Sick,just totally sick.

Yes Rape of a 9 year old girl

makes him Evil