[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It definitely looks like it was an attempted suicide by cops.

You see the other videos of him just hanging around, chatting and spewing his hate speech, then when the cops show up he charges at them. You can tell he wanted them to kill him.

Too cowardly to take his own life, he wanted to make the cops do it. Bad luck buddy! you're still alive, and you'll have to face real justice now.

I don't think it is real justice that he is alive, its not like he will show remorse for his actions, he will be given a free room and lodgings and of coarse a copy of the coran all at our expence in the sense of an eye for an eye they should have their heads chopped off with a blunt sword!

[bbfan1991]

Just seen Lee Rigby's family statement. I cannot imagine the heartbreak and pain they are feeling right now.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I don't think it is real justice that he is alive, its not like he will show remorse for his actions, he will be given a free room and lodgings and of coarse a copy of the coran all at our expence in the sense of an eye for an eye they should have their heads chopped off with a blunt sword!

It will still be more justice than if he died though. Death would be too easy for this evil bastard.

He might not have it as bad as guantanamo, but he'll still at least have to face a court and face the family of his victim. He owes them that much.

Most terrorists are too cowardly to face any kind of justice, that's why most of them make sure they die in the attack. At least these assholes will have to face some consequences, even if the British justice system is too soft. anything is better than nothing.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It will still be more justice than if he died though. Death would be too easy for this evil bastard.

He might not have it as bad as guantanamo, but he'll still at least have to face a court and face the family of his victim. He owes them that much.

Most terrorists are too cowardly to face any kind of justice, that's why most of them make sure they die in the attack. At least these assholes will have to face some consequences, even if the British justice system is too soft. anything is better than nothing.

when these two men hacked a man to death with his warm blood still on their hands they then went on to preach to camera's, these men think with all there being that they have done good, they will not show an ounce of remorse or emotion for this sickening crime.

they have taken a life and destroyed many more with their actions. there is no place in this world for murderers.

[lostalex]

I certainly agree with you that if ever there is a time for the death penalty this would be it.

ZERO question of guilt.

ZERO question of motive.

Absolutely these animals deserve death.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I certainly agree with you that if ever there is a time for the death penalty this would be it.

ZERO question of guilt.

ZERO question of motive.

Absolutely these animals deserve death.

very true, premeditated murder should come with the death sentence.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If they were teaching your children what they teach in those muslim schools, you'd be outraged. You have a double standard.

Funny that. Would wager the Education my Cousin in Egypt has received is 10x the one we receive. Dunno where you get the impression they aren't taught about 9/11 or Holloucaust either....You should try go to these countries instead of preaching crap you hear on CNN.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Funny that. Would wager the Education my Cousin in Egypt has received is 10x the one we receive. Dunno where you get the impression they aren't taught about 9/11 or Holloucaust either....You should try go to these countries instead of preaching crap you hear on CNN.

Fox News not CNN.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Funny that. Would wager the Education my Cousin in Egypt has received is 10x the one we receive. Dunno where you get the impression they aren't taught about 9/11 or Holloucaust either....You should try go to these countries instead of preaching crap you hear on CNN.

You are just being silly if you don't know about the absolutely appalling education in the arab world. The illiteracy rates, especially among girls, is absolutely disgusting.

I really don't know why you are trying to justify it.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You are just being silly if you don't know about the absolutely appalling education in the arab world. The illiteracy rates, especially among girls, is absolutely disgusting.

I really don't know why you are trying to justify it.

Because....Shock horror, I've been to 3 arab Countries and From experience I know you are talking crap. Keep preaching your hate though on your Computer from the other side of the world....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Because....Shock horror, I've been to 3 arab Countries and From experience I know you are talking crap. Keep preaching your hate though on your Computer from the other side of the world....

My hate? remind me again who i'm being hateful against? remind me again who i've ever advocated to have less rights than me (unlike muslims who are blatantly and unapologetically homophobic) tell me who i've hated and what rights i've said should be taken away from them?

you are talking SHEEET.

[Omah]

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/001...62/146282e.pdf

Illiteracy in the Arab world
Hassan R. Hammoud 2005

Improvement of Female Literacy. Female literacy rates 15 and over (Table 1) in the Arab world today range from 24 (Iraq) to 85.9 percent (Jordan). Between 1990 and 2000- 2004, six Arab countries ranked above the world average of 76.5%. Bahrain raised it female literacy rate from 74.6% to 84.2%, Jordan from 72.1% to 85.9%, Kuwait from 72.6% to 81%, Lebanon from 73.1% to 82%, Qatar from 76% to 82.3%, and the United Arab Emirates from 70% to 80.7%.

However, despite such a great strides in female literacy in these countries, high rates of illiteracy among women persists in the majority of the Arab countries, indeed women today account for two thirds of the region’s illiterates and according to the Arab Human Development Report 2002, p.52, this rate is not expected to disappear “not until 2040”. Several factors seem to account for such a deficit, chief among them are the low base in primary enrollment from which such countries started, the slow down in the rate of increase in enrollment during the 1990s compared with the 1980s, with an apparent bias against female (AHDR 2002, p.52), the decline in public expenditure on education since 1995 (AHDR 2003, p.52), in addition to “a decline in political commitment or inappropriate approaches to rectifying the situation”.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/regi...07-28-1.272076

Arab World needs to rise to the literacy challenge

Illiteracy rate in the Arab World is around 35.6% compared with a global rate of 18%

By Nadim Kawach
Published Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Kuwait has the lowest female illiteracy rate in the Arab World.

Arab nations have more than 70 million illiterate people and nearly two thirds of them are concentrated in five regional countries, according to the Arab League.

The number means the illiteracy rate in the 21-nation Arab League is currently estimated at 35.6 per cent, nearly double the global rate, said the Arab League Educational, Cultural and Scientific Organisation (Alesco).

The problem is underscored in Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Morocco and Algeria, which have about 48 million illiterates, nearly 68 per cent of the total.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/001...62/146282e.pdf

oh Omah, you are going to make him lazy. I much prefer to make them do their own homework.

If you do their homework for them then they'll never learn for themselves.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh Omah, you are going to make him lazy. I much prefer to make them do their own homework.

If you do their homework for them then they'll never learn for themselves.

I just wondered who was right (I suspected you were) so just did a quick search out of interest.

[Brother Leon]

The three Arab countries I have been to all have 90%+ Literacy rates or just off. So it's still wrong to assume Education in all Arab countries is poor....try again.


Oh and Over two-thirds of the world's 793 million illiterate adults are found in only eight countries (Bangladesh, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Pakistan).....

One country there could be considered Arabic....Oh statistics. Funny thing.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

The three Arab countries I have been to all have 90%+ Literacy rates. So it's still wrong to assume Education in all Arab countries is poor....try again.


Oh and Over two-thirds of the world's 793 million illiterate adults are found in only eight countries (Bangladesh, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Pakistan).....

One country there could be considered Arabic....Oh statistics. Funny thing.

Your source .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

The three Arab countries I have been to all have 90%+ Literacy rates or just off..

Which were they .....

Would wager the Education my Cousin in Egypt has received is 10x the one we receive.

Details please .....

[arista]

Michael Adebowale, 22

He was on the Local High Street at weekends
not far from the Muder of Lee Rigby
Preaching to passers by and giving them leaflets

So he was on a Gods mission
as a Extreme Muslim.


Ref: Ch5NewsHD Live

[arista]

Woolwich Soldier Murder: Three More Arrests

"Three men have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy
to murder the British soldier who was hacked
to death in Woolwich.
Two men aged 24 and 28 were arrested at a
residential address in London while a 21-year-old
man was arrested in the street, Scotland Yard police
headquarters said in a statement.
Taser electric stun guns were used on
the 28-year-old and the 21-year-old."

http://news.sky.com/story/1095577/wo...e-more-arrests

[arista]

['I will gag the hate clerics': Cameron to launch new
terror task force to bring an end to religious extremism]

I wish you good luck PM

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2UOniNO1c


For Kizzy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...mbat-terrorism

[joeysteele]

I hope he does arista and I hope he really whips into action his useless Home Secretary too.

I do though seriously wish him luck with that and in particular I also hope some moves will be taking as to stopping the media also giving them the vile publicity they give them for their comments too.

Clamping down on extremists is unquantifiable, it's like trying to ban silliness.

We need to move away from sound bytes such as "war on terror" and devise a strategy that actually confronts the issues that the extremists care about, Rather than the simplistic "we're good, you're bad" bollocks we will continue to see.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Clamping down on extremists is unquantifiable, it's like trying to ban silliness.

We need to move away from sound bytes such as "war on terror" and devise a strategy that actually confronts the issues that the extremists care about, Rather than the simplistic "we're good, you're bad" bollocks we will continue to see.

We can not stay as we are.

Its never simple - but these killers went to University and dropped out.



Its in the Koran - they take the words how they want them.

[Ninastar]

saw an interview of his wife and it broke my heart. i cannot even begin to imagine the terror and sadness they must feel right now

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

['I will gag the hate clerics': Cameron to launch new
terror task force to bring an end to religious extremism]

I wish you good luck PM

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2UOniNO1c


For Kizzy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...mbat-terrorism

Thanks
What Theresa May says here is confusing,
''May said the government review of its anti-terror strategy needed to look "at the question of whether perhaps we need to have banning orders to ban organisations that don't meet the threshold for proscription".

May questioned why the BBC had allowed a radical cleric, Anjem Choudray, to appear on Newsnight last week. "I think Anjem Choudary has disgusting views and I think it is right that we look at how those views are being presented and I think there were many people who did indeed say what is the BBC doing interviewing Anjem Choudary?" she said.''

I was under the impression we had those laws already in place?
Inciting racial hatred?.. As well as those attached to the civil contingencies Act.