[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Whistle blowers have always played an important role in attempting to curb the overreaching powers of government. Benjamin Franklin said “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” I think that sums it up quite nicely.

Until governments do everything in their powers to care for every single person in the country, then spying on citizens to prevent a terrorist attack every 10-15 years is seriously misguided.

More people die of hunger each year, than are at any kind of risk from a terror attack. It's a completely irrational reaction.

I'm not against whistle blowers. I agree they play an important role. And I think the government's interest is it's own survival and not the care of every citizen. But I do think in most cases they try to do the most good.

And the fact people are dying of hunger when other countries have more than enough is a sign that the system is far from perfect. But it's the only one we have. And hungry people can't eat Snowden's interviews.

Maybe I'm not understanding sometime but I wasn't at all shocked by the stuff Snowden came out with, I expected that type of stuff to be going on. Maybe I'm missing something with story

Originally Posted by arista

They Do Protest In America , South America
and the World.



Its his last term in power
He can kill who he wants now


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...tion-user-data

Look at this Microsoft giving People Private Data to the NSA in America.

Fecking Poxy Bill Gates.

I'm not surprised though, companies give our info to whoever pays them. And I guess if you're a government you could try get it off them for free.

Originally Posted by bobnot

But their spying methods are against the law they have no right to be doing that. They are hounding a man because he exposed the fact they were breaking international law.
What they have done is not ok nor would a change of president change what they do.

They are murdering and torturing people on a huge scale Mr Snowden isnt.
Which is the lesser of the evils?
damn it i replied again.

But I disagree that their spying methods are against the law. The spy organisation is operating on the front line, the law hasn't caught up with the internet yet.

And I don't see it as a choice to agree with torture or agree with thinking what Snowden did was right.

I don't see the CIA as an evil organisation, and I don't see the American government as such either. But I do see what Snowden did as something that could have harmed his own country.