[rusticgal]

She knows she was 'partly' responsible for his reaction by goading him knowing full well she was safe from harm.... no wonder she isnt saying much. Imagine her telling them all word for word what happened...she knows she antagonised the whole situation...she no doubt didnt see his behaviour coming but she should have seen the signs...given his duvet back and left the safe-house. That would have been a 'normal' reaction.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She knows she was 'partly' responsible for his reaction by goading him knowing full well she was safe from harm.... no wonder she isnt saying much. Imagine her telling them all word for word what happened...she knows she antagonised the whole situation...she no doubt didnt see his behaviour coming but she should have seen the signs...given his duvet back and left the safe-house. That would have been a 'normal' reaction.

She wasn't trying to get him kicked out, she was trying to get him to have sexy time with her. Think you've misinterpreted.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She knows she was 'partly' responsible for his reaction by goading him knowing full well she was safe from harm.... no wonder she isnt saying much. Imagine her telling them all word for word what happened...she knows she antagonised the whole situation...she no doubt didnt see his behaviour coming but she should have seen the signs...given his duvet back and left the safe-house. That would have been a 'normal' reaction.

Sorry to spoil your analysis but the throat grab and threats occurred after she'd already willingly allowed him to take back his duvet.

She was flirting, as was he. But he switched from playful to nasty. She got uncomfortable and went quieter, but played along as though he was joking. Then he took his duvet back, she backed off then he stuck his head in her face threatened her and pinned her to the bed.

BB calls him and she shoots to the other side of the room.

When BB announced his removal she didn't pretend anything, she was surprised and found it awkward that people were asking questions. Did people honestly expect her to suddenly go into details right there seconds after his removal? Get real.

[CaudleHalbard]

Wasn't it a bit odd that nothing was said about the fact that Hazel and Daley were, apparently, cuddling together in bed even after the "violent" activity earlier on in the evening?

No wonder Hazel is keeping a bit quiet! If that got out it would ruin her victim posturing..... as would the formal warning.

[Nedusa]

I think BB have to take some of the blame putting them both in the secret room and supplying copious amounts of Booze. I mean what the hell did they think was going to happen ?

She was assaulted albeit not in a violent way but he overstepped the mark and showed his true nature and quite honestly he had to go straight away. A real loose cannon who thinks violence against women is acceptable. Should never have got through the audition stage.

As for Hazel she picked on the wrong guy this time and her mind games almost resulted in a violent incident, she needs to tone down this type of goading as outside the house she may not have been so lucky to escape unscathed.

She now is left in a terrible position in the house with few allies and more than a few enemies. She will struggle to explain what happened with Daley and as a consequence will end up taking some blame. Her time left in the house may be quite short.

[blue]

here we go again, now the slore is a victim, she wanted it she go it simple










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[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Sorry to spoil your analysis but the throat grab and threats occurred after she'd already willingly allowed him to take back his duvet.

She was flirting, as was he. But he switched from playful to nasty. She got uncomfortable and went quieter, but played along as though he was joking. Then he took his duvet back, she backed off then he stuck his head in her face threatened her and pinned her to the bed.

BB calls him and she shoots to the other side of the room.

When BB announced his removal she didn't pretend anything, she was surprised and found it awkward that people were asking questions. Did people honestly expect her to suddenly go into details right there seconds after his removal? Get real.

I think it was the perfect time to tell the Hm's when it was all fresh in her memory. Come a week form now when its been spun to death out here then it'd be possible to question her recollection of the events. And remember they had both been drinking.

I'm not a Daley fan nor am I defending him but I thought her behavior was odd when BB announced Daley had been thrown out.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't think she's really processed it all and I'm stunned to see anyone blaming her for what happened.

EXACTLY Dezzy x

[armand.kay]

Everyone in that house is competition and is out to get you never, I repeat Never reveal everything you know.

[karezza]

The housemates should be told the reason for Daley's ejection. Hazel can deceive the other housemates but she can't deceive the public.

[swinearefine]

Are people seriously giving her **** for this? She can't win. If she told them what happened she would be branded manipulative and using the situation to gain sympathy. She had a lot to take in and clearly wasn't comfortable saying anything about the matter. If anything you'd think people would be applauding her for not trying to use the situation to her benefit or get sympathy.

[CaudleHalbard]

It is just possible that BB have told her not to say anything, because of possible legal consequences.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The way she said "what's everyone looking at me for ?" was so sly and dodgy. Horrible girl!!!

This.

[fingers]

She told Dan her version in the Treehouse.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by calderyon

Maybe she was told to shut up by BB (producers).

In our BB, when this happens, they usually get instructions from BB to not say anything to anyone and let BB handle things.

If she had been, she wouldnt have been able to tell dan, she has told him so that she can elicit some sympathy while still in the house

i think she knows she wont get any outside

Daley is a nasty piece of work but the way she kept goading him and telling him to be aggressive was just blatantly disgusting behaviour

She could have, at any time, asked BB to open the door so she could leave, they would have done so immediately but right to the end, she was asking him to get into her bed for a cuddle

Also the fact that she stayed the whole night in bed with him (when she could very easily have demanded (in her chat in the Diary Room) that she be allowed back into the main house or even that she be allowed to stay in the Diary Room if she was scared

The fact that she left the Diary Room, went back into the Safe House and climbed into bed with him, does not suggest to me that she was scared

If he had made me feel scared at any point (which his behaviour most definetly would have) then I would have left and not returned, why didnt she?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I think it was the perfect time to tell the Hm's when it was all fresh in her memory. Come a week form now when its been spun to death out here then it'd be possible to question her recollection of the events. And remember they had both been drinking.

I'm not a Daley fan nor am I defending him but I thought her behavior was odd when BB announced Daley had been thrown out.

But why would she? She felt awkward and it's a delicate situation when Daley isn't there to give his view on the incident.

Judging her for not suddenly giving the full story to the whole house when she's literally just heard he's gone is ridiculous.

Put yourself in such an awkward situation. I'd just want to get out of that room.

No doubt if she had gone into details, she'd be lambasted for preying on the situation for attention. The girl can't win.

If anything it's good that the first thing on her mind wasn't that the other housemates needed to be filled in on all the details because it was "fresh in her memory". There's no reason for them to know, they'll see when they come out.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

But why would she? She felt awkward and it's a delicate situation when Daley isn't there to give his view on the incident.

Judging her for not suddenly giving the full story to the whole house when she's literally just heard he's gone is ridiculous.

Put yourself in such an awkward situation. I'd just want to get out of that room.

No doubt if she had gone into details, she'd be lambasted for preying on the situation for attention. The girl can't win.

I think us judging her for not telling them, is the least of her worries

I think, mainly, we are judging her for everything that she has done to provoke and exacerbate this situation and the fact that she is still on our television screens even though she should have been thrown out for lewd behaviour as well

In fact, if we are all defending women here, and saying that the aggressor should have gone.......shouldnt Hazel have gone over a week ago when she wouldnt stop touching Daley inappropriately, even though he kept asking her to back off because he was getting aroused. If that had been a male housemate, continually touching up a female when she asked him not to, he would have been thrown out, but its okay for her to do it to him???

Double standards are not good karma BB

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I think us judging her for not telling them, is the least of her worries

I think, mainly, we are judging her for everything that she has done to provoke and exacerbate this situation and the fact that she is still on our television screens even though she should have been thrown out for lewd behaviour as well

In fact, if we are all defending women here, and saying that the aggressor should have gone.......shouldnt Hazel have gone over a week ago when she wouldnt stop touching Daley inappropriately, even though he kept asking her to back off because he was getting aroused. If that had been a male housemate, continually touching up a female when she asked him not to, he would have been thrown out, but its okay for her to do it to him???

Double standards are not good karma BB

Flirting and wanting a kiss or sex in return but getting a throat grab, pinned to the bed and threatened with violence are two very different things in my book.

Lewd behaviour is not in the same vicinity as an aggressive bully.

But carry on with the witch hunt.

[Miranda123]

[QUOTE=GypsyGoth;6171980]She probably didn't want to admit to being a victim in front of all the HMs. A thing like that is difficult enough to do one on one with loved ones.[/QUOTE

I think youre right, surely BB should take her out of the house to hospital and get her checked over, she may still be in shock

And when she leaves the hospital, take her home to her Mum and get her off our TV's

VILE WOMAN

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Flirting and wanting a kiss or sex in return but getting a throat grab, pinned to the bed and threatened with violence are two very different things in my book.

Lewd behaviour is not in the same vicinity as an aggressive bully.

But carry on with the witch hunt.

I will, thank you

I have not excused the oik that is Daley at all, all aggression inside the house should be punished but she also should have been and the fact that you think its okay for her to behave like that says more about you than her

[anne666]

Strange as she then went on to tell Dan her version of events.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I will, thank you

I have not excused the oik that is Daley at all, all aggression inside the house should be punished but she also should have been and the fact that you think its okay for her to behave like that says more about you than her

She was given a formal warning

[fingers]

She absolutely revelled in getting him aroused and her laughter at his attempts to hide it spoke volumes.

[anne666]

I just wonder who or what she will latch onto next

[CaudleHalbard]

Dexter is pretty desperate for love or even "love"!