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Old 16-07-2013, 11:31 AM #26
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what would be the consequences?

would BB call him immediately to the diary room?

clearly this is when daley went nuts....BB should have stepped in immediately at that moment to stop the situation getting so out of control

I notice denise welsh did this to the American twins, the twins went nuts about it, yet she got away with it...but if a man invaded a womans boundaries this way and pulled her pants down on live tv, well the reaction would be massive and hed be immediately pulled up , possibly evicted.

double standards. hazel invaded his boundaries big time and BB should have stepped in immediately.
Im glad you mentioned Denise Welch, yes she stayed in and WON ut she was severley reprimanded for the act and it was a big deal on BB at the time

Here we have a nasty girl, not letting a man sleep cause she wants to 'play' with him, when he gets nasty, she goads him until she gets a massive reaction and then tells BB and Dan, she was terrified. It was obvious to anyone that Daley was not a man to be played with in drink (or not on drink to be honest) but she didnt seem to care about that cause she had a Bb Story and that was her intention

I would never say she deserved what she got, cause that would imply that I agree with domestic violence, but she certainly wanted something to happen and perhaps her mother needs to sew a message into her knickers before letting her out of the house

"what goes around, comes around"

Im hoping it willl all come around on Friday when the crowd ignore evictees and scream GET HAZEL OUT

That should trigger Dan to understand that she is NOT telling the truth in its entirety
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I don't think she done it to humiliate him. All horseplay, he appeared to be ok at first, then within a minute he changed.
Do they forget the cameras are on, if so then I can see no harm at all in it, a bit of fun between them. Being in the safe house alone together might lull them into thinking they were " on their own" .
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I don't think she done it to humiliate him. All horseplay, he appeared to be ok at first, then within a minute he changed.
Do they forget the cameras are on, if so then I can see no harm at all in it, a bit of fun between them. Being in the safe house alone together might lull them into thinking they were " on their own" .
I think she did, but we can agree to disagree on that, even regardless of intent she was bang out of order, that's considered sexual assault and many men have gone to jail for that. BB should have stepped in immediately, shed slapped his backside,,, hed slapped hers , she tried to pull his pants down, BB were asleep at the wheel.
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what would be the consequences?

would BB call him immediately to the diary room?

clearly this is when daley went nuts....BB should have stepped in immediately at that moment to stop the situation getting so out of control

I notice denise welsh did this to the American twins, the twins went nuts about it, yet she got away with it...but if a man invaded a womans boundaries this way and pulled her pants down on live tv, well the reaction would be massive and hed be immediately pulled up , possibly evicted.

double standards. hazel invaded his boundaries big time and BB should have stepped in immediately.
Daley went nuts before this.

It was clever editing.

Hazel was given a warning.

Back in 2005 Science pulled the duvet of Makosi when she was naked and on her period and wasn't given a warning I believe.

Its not double standards, Hazel was given a warning for pulling down his pants but this wasn't the cause of him going mental if you watched live feed he was having tantrums and talking to himself about her being outside talking when she should be in bed (in his opinion).
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Daley went nuts before this.

It was clever editing.

Hazel was given a warning.

Back in 2005 Science pulled the duvet of Makosi when she was naked and on her period and wasn't given a warning I believe.

Its not double standards, Hazel was given a warning for pulling down his pants but this wasn't the cause of him going mental if you watched live feed he was having tantrums and talking to himself about her being outside talking when she should be in bed (in his opinion).
It is double standards, youre always biased in favour of women in every situation so you opinion is meaningless
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It is double standards, youre always biased in favour of women in every situation so you opinion is meaningless
The irony
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no irony. I agree daley should have been booted
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I think she did, but we can agree to disagree on that, even regardless of intent she was bang out of order, that's considered sexual assault and many men have gone to jail for that. BB should have stepped in immediately, shed slapped his backside,,, hed slapped hers , she tried to pull his pants down, BB were asleep at the wheel.
they were a couple its what couples do
they wern't sitting around the dinner table with the rest of them they were in the love nest bb created for them. bb want sex at some point those shorts need to come of lol or it isnt happening.

now if hazel randomly went up to callum or dex or someone in the house for no reason n done it in full view of others then maybe thats a different story
and obviously any guy doing it.
but couples in the love shack is a different story thats what they were in for
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yea that's what I just said.....denise welsh pulled their pants down, she also HIT Michael madsen in the face a few times and verbally abused and stalked him for weeks in a bitter drunken stupor.....not only was she not booted, the GREAT british public voted her their winner.....what a biased misandrist double standard male hating sexist culture we now have.....if a male had done half what she did, hed be in prison
No she didn't.

She raised her hand and he grabbed it.

Why do you keep making things up?

Michael also verbally abused Denise by calling her crazy, unstable on live tv.

Why are your posts allways based on sex fgs im sick of it.
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they were a couple its what couples do
they wern't sitting around the dinner table with the rest of them they were in the love nest bb created for them. bb want sex at some point those shorts need to come of lol or it isnt happening.

now if hazel randomly went up to callum or dex or someone in the house for no reason n done it in full view of others then maybe thats a different story
and obviously any guy doing it.
but couples in the love shack is a different story thats what they were in for
pulling someones pants down against their will is sexual assault. he said no, she still did it.....if it was the other way around hed have been in the diary room immediately
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Jedward done so with Amy Childs?
Yeah they did actually when she was sunbathing in the garden and they pulled the back of her bakini bottoms down exposing her bum crack.

They got away with it.
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pulling someones pants down against their will is sexual assault. he said no, she still did it.....if it was the other way around hed have been in the diary room immediately

lol its called foreplay you must of experienced it. your acting like they are strangers.
this isnt charlie pulling dexters trousers down at the diner table this is a couple having fun in the bedroom.

context is everything
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It is double standards, youre always biased in favour of women in every situation so you opinion is meaningless
How is it double standards.

She got a warning for it.

She was reprimanded for her actions and did not get away with it.

I don't allways support the woman at all but you are judging all of this based on heavily edited highlights when if you watched the build up in the live feed over 2 days he was very very disturbing.

He wouldn't be kicked out for just pulling down her pants but would have got a warning.

He grabbed her by the throat and threatened to nut her.
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No she didn't.

She raised her hand and he grabbed it.

Why do you keep making things up?

Michael also verbally abused Denise by calling her crazy, unstable on live tv.

Why are your posts allways based on sex fgs im sick of it.
The aggressive intention was there from Denise.....
Partly the reason Daley got done for aggressive intent, this is civilian big brother, celebrity much more action should be taken because they should know how to act professional at all times, most housemates in civilian bb arent used to doing that. But like i said if it was Michael doing what Denise was doing he would get ejected lol. If hazel done what Daley done she wouldn't get ejected. Im not turning this into a gender war or anything but i just think its true lol. Bb have more leeway for girls than boys. And for a gender tht wants to be treated equally to us men, it seems they dont really mind less punishment being giving out on them.
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She can pull my pants down anytime!
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How is it double standards.

She got a warning for it.

She was reprimanded for her actions and did not get away with it.

I don't allways support the woman at all but you are judging all of this based on heavily edited highlights when if you watched the build up in the live feed over 2 days he was very very disturbing.

He wouldn't be kicked out for just pulling down her pants but would have got a warning.

He grabbed her by the throat and threatened to nut her.
she did hit madsen in the face , that's the truth youre telling pork pies again
she also stalked him and verbally abused him for weeks, even offerinvg him sex which he politely declined, she then got nastier, she of course also pulled down the pants of the American twin, yet despite this physical and sexual assault she wasn't booted and the violent abusive drunk was voted as winner by the dumbed down voters. you are always biased towards the women.
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The aggressive intention was there from Denise.....
Partly the reason Daley got done for aggressive intent, this is civilian big brother, celebrity much more action should be taken because they should know how to act professional at all times, most housemates in civilian bb arent used to doing that. But like i said if it was Michael doing what Denise was doing he would get ejected lol. If hazel done what Daley done she wouldn't get ejected. Im not turning this into a gender war or anything but i just think its true lol. Bb have more leeway for girls than boys. And for a gender tht wants to be treated equally to us men, it seems they dont really mind less punishment being giving out on them.
100% correct. Bravo. It is double standards and the punishment is different for genders, which is wrong. equal laws should apply. otherwise its a farce where women know they can abuse more and get away with more. then eventually they get their wish which is to antagonise the man to lose his temper , at this point the woman then turns on the tears , gets all the attention and votes. this is how denise won the show. it is wrong and the double standard must stop from the very beginning, otherwise we will see this sad sequence of events again and again and again
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I tell you who you sound like, the truth, Daley - when he was spouting his "this iz 2 fousand and firteen - equal rights" bollocks.

Equal rights is a female to male thing, not the other way round. And the fact equal rights were needed at all, was due to the abhorrent way us males have treated the females throughout human history.

Females are generally not any kind of sexual danger to men.

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hahahahaha are you joking. pulling his pants down was a bit of fun between 2 people who had been flirting for over a week, who were in a room on the own, not infront of anyone, how can this even be a talking point. she was being playful i'd say the same if daley had done it to her in a playful manner, seeing as tho they probably saw each others bits. and come on BB didn't need to show that part they could of stopped it, it's not like they have no control on whats broadcast even in a live stream their is a delay
They DID censor the pants being pulled down on LF but only so that they could include it in the HLs show.
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she did hit madsen in the face , that's the truth youre telling pork pies again
she also stalked him and verbally abused him for weeks, even offerinvg him sex which he politely declined, she then got nastier, she of course also pulled down the pants of the American twin, yet despite this physical and sexual assault she wasn't booted and the violent abusive drunk was voted as winner by the dumbed down voters. you are always biased towards the women.

She didn't hit him in the face-She went to and he grabbed her arm (You said in a previous post she hit him in the face "several times) which she did not

She received a severe warning for pulling down the Shannon twins pants so she didn't get away with that (btw I thought we were talking about if a man did it to a woman?)

Hazel got a warning for her "offensive behaviour" so I don't see how you think she got away with it?

I am not allways biased towards women thats YOU. Dexter is my favourite this year and guess what...HE HAS A PENIS!!! My least favourite housemate it Jackie who has a VAGINA

Again I repeat myself...Hazel received a warning and was warned so BB also took her behaviour as offensive.

My opinion is totally unbiased as im not judging their behaviour based on the gender

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Youre opinion is biased and youre being disingenuous....you can shout as loud as you like its a sure sign of insecurity. as long as the housemate is either gay or has a vagina youre biased in favour of that person. youre biased against hetrosexual men. youre endless threads about the same thing which is nearly always male bashing is a waste of space. denise welch assaulted Michael madsen and the American twin, yet she didn't get booted and you didn't ask her to get booted. you also didn't start multiple threads claling out her disgraceful behaviour. that makes you biased and youre opinions utterly irrelevant.
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I tell you who you sound like, the truth, Daley - when he was spouting his "this iz 2 fousand and firteen - equal rights" bollocks.

Equal rights is a female to male thing, not the other way round. And the fact equal rights were needed at all, was due to the abhorrent way us males have treated the females throughout human history.

Females are generally not any kind of sexual danger to men.
100% wrong. equal rights is universal, its not a female thing or a race thing,, its equal rights or its unequal. Ive not treated any woman abhorrently, and its wrong to generalize about all men, speak for yourself

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How is it double standards.

She got a warning for it.

She was reprimanded for her actions and did not get away with it.

I don't allways support the woman at all but you are judging all of this based on heavily edited highlights when if you watched the build up in the live feed over 2 days he was very very disturbing.

He wouldn't be kicked out for just pulling down her pants but would have got a warning.

He grabbed her by the throat and threatened to nut her.
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so its ok for a female housemate to physically assault one housemate and sexually assault another and stay in the house? if shes female?
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Youre opinion is biased and youre being disingenuous....you can shout as loud as you like its a sure sign of insecurity. as long as the housemate is either gay or has a vagina youre biased in favour of that person. youre biased against hetrosexual men. youre endless threads about the same thing which is nearly always male bashing is a waste of space. denise welch assaulted Michael madsen and the American twin, yet she didn't get booted and you didn't ask her to get booted. you also didn't start multiple threads claling out her disgraceful behaviour. that makes you biased and youre opinions utterly irrelevant.

I just told you my favourite housemate is male (dexter) and my least favourite is female (Jackie).

So how can you say I don't support hetrosexual men.

I am sick of you calling me heterophobic and the fact you think I only support gay men is you being very very offensive. Yes im gay but that doesn't mean I support someone based on their sexuality if that was the case I would be voting for Dan but im not.

Are you seriously dumb?

You don't read my posts at all.
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