[the truth]

clearly female housemates are allowed to get away with more, so in that sense the show is 20 years behind the times where males and females are held accountable to the same standards

[kefln]

Originally Posted by the truth

clearly female housemates are allowed to get away with more, so in that sense the show is 20 years behind the times where males and females are held accountable to the same standards

The audience allow females to get away with less. Therefore the viewing public are behind the times in their thinking

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

clearly female housemates are allowed to get away with more, so in that sense the show is 20 years behind the times where males and females are held accountable to the same standards

How long is this going on, once again, she got a formal warning .NO-ONE has EVER been evicted for exposing someone in that way or any other way !!!!

[kefln]

Originally Posted by anne666

How long is this going on, once again, she got a formal warning .NO-ONE has EVER been evicted for exposing someone in that way or any other way !!!!

Its the clutching at straws argument. When someone has little or no real reason for taking sides, apart from personal bais, they focus on one small thing and make it into more than it is.

If they had more, they would say more. Taking this example, had hazel acted like daley, imagine how people would have reacted. Shes called a ***** and a homewrecker as it is.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

Its the clutching at straws argument. When someone has little or no real reason for taking sides, apart from personal bais, they focus on one small thing and make it into more than it is.

If they had more, they would say more. Taking this example, had hazel acted like daley, imagine how people would have reacted. Shes called a ***** and a homewrecker as it is.

Yes I totally agree. Also I wonder about some peoples English comprehension. No matter how many true facts, both legally and historically are mentioned it never seems to sink in. In some cases we are even seen as Hazel lovers. It is beyond a joke and worrying. I dont like her at all. However that stupid man, whose one brain cell seems to inhabit his penis,only had to tell her to leave him alone from the start of the series.Simple really.Defend that Hazel haters.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by anne666

Yes I totally agree. Also I wonder about some peoples English comprehension. No matter how many true facts, both legally and historically are mentioned it never seems to sink in. In some cases we are even seen as Hazel lovers. It is beyond a joke and worrying. I dont like her at all. However that stupid man, whose one brain cell seems to inhabit his penis,only had to tell her to leave him alone from the start of the series.Simple really.Defend that Hazel haters.

Is it not possible to see Hazel's actions as a trigger but not a justification? The OP is saying that if BB had intervened things would not have escalated. Had they been separated, Hazel would have been saved from Daley's rage and aggressive attack. Since Hazel got a warning, why not pull her out immediately? Of course Hazel didn't realise she was with a dangerous person but why were BB so slow to react?

I think that Hazel should have been ejected for exposing Daley, whether or not others have got away with it before. I also think Daley deserved to go because of what he did and until he gets re-education, he will remain a danger.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Is it not possible to see Hazel's actions as a trigger but not a justification? The OP is saying that if BB had intervened things would not have escalated. Had they been separated, Hazel would have been saved from Daley's rage and aggressive attack. Since Hazel got a warning, why not pull her out immediately? Of course Hazel didn't realise she was with a dangerous person but why were BB so slow to react?

I think that Hazel should have been ejected for exposing Daley, whether or not others have got away with it before. I also think Daley deserved to go because of what he did and until he gets re-education, he will remain a danger.

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by kefln

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

Alone in the dark with a night vision camera rolling and thousands of people watching, not very intimate is it really? You or the viewers may have wanted to see Daley have his pants pulled down but Daley didn't, and that's the point.

BB did intervene by giving Hazel a warning but they were playing with fire by being as much of a voyeur as the public. The difference is they have to judge and protect and here they let Hazel down. They should have pulled Daley out as soon as the hands went around the neck, I guess somebody at BB was thinking "a bit more, no, just a bit more"!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

Precisely.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kefln

Its the clutching at straws argument. When someone has little or no real reason for taking sides, apart from personal bais, they focus on one small thing and make it into more than it is.

If they had more, they would say more. Taking this example, had hazel acted like daley, imagine how people would have reacted. Shes called a ***** and a homewrecker as it is.

theyre mere words, she is still in the house and will still make a fortune from being a homewrecker and sexually assaulting daley

[kefln]

Originally Posted by the truth

theyre mere words, she is still in the house and will still make a fortune from being a homewrecker and sexually assaulting daley

A BB house mate looking to make cash - quick hold the press - oh wait they already have

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

A BB house mate looking to make cash - quick hold the press - oh wait they already have

This is so funny. Daley was showing his erection, which wasn't that impressive long before this happened. Even waxed lyrical about which pants he should wear for when the little fella popped up YUK !!! I wonder if that is his small problem and the reason he is a misogynistic , violent, control freak LOL. A lot of male ego's being assaulted on here I think.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by anne666

How long is this going on, once again, she got a formal warning .NO-ONE has EVER been evicted for exposing someone in that way or any other way !!!!

it was the whole sequence of events that lead up to her sexually assaulting him.....the sleep deprivation, the demanding of physical contact, the jumping in his ned on top of him when hed said no, she also grabbed his throat befre forcing his pants down to expose his penis....she should have been warned immediately and booted. if that exact same sequence of events had happened t a woman there would be riots

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

it was the whole sequence of events that lead up to her sexually assaulting him.....the sleep deprivation, the demanding of physical contact, the jumping in his ned on top of him when hed said no, she also grabbed his throat befre forcing his pants down to expose his penis....she should have been warned immediately and booted. if that exact same sequence of events had happened t a woman there would be riots

Dont agree at all and pulling down someones pants is NOT sexual assault.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

it was the whole sequence of events that lead up to her sexually assaulting him.....the sleep deprivation, the demanding of physical contact, the jumping in his ned on top of him when hed said no, she also grabbed his throat befre forcing his pants down to expose his penis....she should have been warned immediately and booted. if that exact same sequence of events had happened t a woman there would be riots

Can I ask you for your honest opinion . If the outcome had been sexual activity how would you then have viewed her behaviour.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by anne666

Can I ask you for your honest opinion . If the outcome had been sexual activity how would you then have viewed her behaviour.

just the same. pulling down someones pants to expose their genitalia against their will is sexual assault even when it happens to a man....Nw I would like an honest opinion to please ,,,how would you have reacted if a man did to you all of the things hazel did to daley? i.e. jumped in your bed when you said no, demanded physical contact when you said no, stuck a pillow over your head, kept you awake all night, grabbed your knickers and pulled them down when youd said no

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

just the same. pulling down someones pants to expose their genitalia against their will is sexual assault even when it happens to a man....Nw I would like an honest opinion to please ,,,how would you have reacted if a man did to you all of the things hazel did to daley? i.e. jumped in your bed when you said no, demanded physical contact when you said no, stuck a pillow over your head, kept you awake all night, grabbed your knickers and pulled them down when youd said no

Once again pulling someones pants down is NOT sexual assault.If she had gone on to touch him BB would have been thrilled of course and if he objected that is then sexual assault. When you answer my question I will answer yours.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by anne666

Once again pulling someones pants down is NOT sexual assault.If she had gone on to touch him BB would have been thrilled of course and if he objected that is then sexual assault. When you answer my question I will answer yours.

I have answered and you have ducked mine

[YodaBB]

Originally Posted by the truth

it was the whole sequence of events that lead up to her sexually assaulting him.....the sleep deprivation, the demanding of physical contact, the jumping in his ned on top of him when hed said no, she also grabbed his throat befre forcing his pants down to expose his penis....she should have been warned immediately and booted. if that exact same sequence of events had happened t a woman there would be riots

Daley should have just went to sleep rather than forcing Hazel in the safehouse

[anne666]

Originally Posted by YodaBB

Daley should have just went to sleep rather than forcing Hazel in the safehouse

Yes and BB should have intervened when they saw the rage he had worked himself into. She had no idea of any of that.