[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

Its the clutching at straws argument. When someone has little or no real reason for taking sides, apart from personal bais, they focus on one small thing and make it into more than it is.

If they had more, they would say more. Taking this example, had hazel acted like daley, imagine how people would have reacted. Shes called a ***** and a homewrecker as it is.

Yes I totally agree. Also I wonder about some peoples English comprehension. No matter how many true facts, both legally and historically are mentioned it never seems to sink in. In some cases we are even seen as Hazel lovers. It is beyond a joke and worrying. I dont like her at all. However that stupid man, whose one brain cell seems to inhabit his penis,only had to tell her to leave him alone from the start of the series.Simple really.Defend that Hazel haters.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by anne666

Yes I totally agree. Also I wonder about some peoples English comprehension. No matter how many true facts, both legally and historically are mentioned it never seems to sink in. In some cases we are even seen as Hazel lovers. It is beyond a joke and worrying. I dont like her at all. However that stupid man, whose one brain cell seems to inhabit his penis,only had to tell her to leave him alone from the start of the series.Simple really.Defend that Hazel haters.

Is it not possible to see Hazel's actions as a trigger but not a justification? The OP is saying that if BB had intervened things would not have escalated. Had they been separated, Hazel would have been saved from Daley's rage and aggressive attack. Since Hazel got a warning, why not pull her out immediately? Of course Hazel didn't realise she was with a dangerous person but why were BB so slow to react?

I think that Hazel should have been ejected for exposing Daley, whether or not others have got away with it before. I also think Daley deserved to go because of what he did and until he gets re-education, he will remain a danger.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Is it not possible to see Hazel's actions as a trigger but not a justification? The OP is saying that if BB had intervened things would not have escalated. Had they been separated, Hazel would have been saved from Daley's rage and aggressive attack. Since Hazel got a warning, why not pull her out immediately? Of course Hazel didn't realise she was with a dangerous person but why were BB so slow to react?

I think that Hazel should have been ejected for exposing Daley, whether or not others have got away with it before. I also think Daley deserved to go because of what he did and until he gets re-education, he will remain a danger.

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by kefln

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

Alone in the dark with a night vision camera rolling and thousands of people watching, not very intimate is it really? You or the viewers may have wanted to see Daley have his pants pulled down but Daley didn't, and that's the point.

BB did intervene by giving Hazel a warning but they were playing with fire by being as much of a voyeur as the public. The difference is they have to judge and protect and here they let Hazel down. They should have pulled Daley out as soon as the hands went around the neck, I guess somebody at BB was thinking "a bit more, no, just a bit more"!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Alone in the dark with a night vision camera rolling and thousands of people watching, not very intimate is it really? You or the viewers may have wanted to see Daley have his pants pulled down but Daley didn't, and that's the point.

BB did intervene by giving Hazel a warning but they were playing with fire by being as much of a voyeur as the public. The difference is they have to judge and protect and here they let Hazel down. They should have pulled Daley out as soon as the hands went around the neck, I guess somebody at BB was thinking "a bit more, no, just a bit more"!

BB did not intervene when they SHOULD have. He was in an abusive state of rage before she even went into the room. The live feed video now removed from you-tube of course to cover their own HUGE mistake.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by anne666

BB did not intervene when they SHOULD have. He was in an abusive state of rage before she even went into the room. The live feed video now removed from you-tube of course to cover their own HUGE mistake.

We agree on that, at least. You would think that after the rape allegation on BB Brazil last year they would be keeping a very close eye on what goes on.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

We agree on that, at least. You would think that after the rape allegation on BB Brazil last year they would be keeping a very close eye on what goes on.

Yes but our BB may learn from this big mistake now, hopefully. I hope she learns to stop using men to get what she wants, before she ends up dead in a ditch.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Alone in the dark with a night vision camera rolling and thousands of people watching, not very intimate is it really? You or the viewers may have wanted to see Daley have his pants pulled down but Daley didn't, and that's the point.

BB did intervene by giving Hazel a warning but they were playing with fire by being as much of a voyeur as the public. The difference is they have to judge and protect and here they let Hazel down. They should have pulled Daley out as soon as the hands went around the neck, I guess somebody at BB was thinking "a bit more, no, just a bit more"!

Everyone who has ever gone into the house have said that for the most part they forget that they are on camera. Even on BOTS, when they talked to judy after she went in for the task, mentioned that she completely forgot the cameras. She said that she even thought that they had decided not to film it. This from a woman who has been on the support shows for years.

So yes, in the dark, in bed, with a little bit of drink taken, I could easly see the cameras been forgotten. Or at least been pushed to the bsck of the mind.


And again BB was never going to intervene when there was a chance of sex. Because sex brings ratings. The voters put those two into the safe house for a reason. BB knows it. We know it.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by kefln

Everyone who has ever gone into the house have said that for the most part they forget that they are on camera. Even on BOTS, when they talked to judy after she went in for the task, mentioned that she completely forgot the cameras. She said that she even thought that they had decided not to film it. This from a woman who has been on the support shows for years.

So yes, in the dark, in bed, with a little bit of drink taken, I could easly see the cameras been forgotten. Or at least been pushed to the bsck of the mind.


And again BB was never going to intervene when there was a chance of sex. Because sex brings ratings. The voters put those two into the safe house for a reason. BB knows it. We know it.

I'm referring to BB not the contestants, they know what is happening and are watching just like the viewers, except that BB have the power. Surely you would agree that they should have intervened when the hands went around the throat?

[kefln]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

I'm referring to BB not the contestants, they know what is happening and are watching just like the viewers, except that BB have the power. Surely you would agree that they should have intervened when the hands went around the throat?

Of course, it should never have gotten that far. But it was a very odd situation, not one they have ever faced before.Thats not an excuse for their slowness, but it might explain why they didnt react quickly enough.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by kefln

Why would BB intervene? The voting public put daley and hazel in that room for one reason. They wanted to see what would happen. They wanted to see kissing and under the sheet action. They wanted those horrible squishy sounds that we hear every year when two HMs start getting close under the blankets.

A woman pulling down a mans pants, while they were alone, in the dark, after weeks of touchy-feely, was exactly what they wanted. What they planned for.

What no one expected was that ape going nuts.

Precisely.