[Nedusa]

I don't agree with this at all, in fact I think it stinks probably the most unacceptable "twist" I've ever seen. They are basically chucking one person out of the house without any warning and without any reason.

For that evicted person this is no laughing matter as they have done nothing wrong and were not nominated so for them to have to leave BB so suddenly without any preparation is nothing short of disgraceful and it will be a sad day for this once great programme.

If I were the evicted HM I would absolutely refuse to leave in the normal manner , I would force the security men to come and get me because I would be outraged and feel totally cheated by this bloody stupid supposed twist.

This truly is the day BB died.....!!!!

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I don't agree with this at all, in fact I think it stinks probably the most unacceptable "twist" I've ever seen. They are basically chucking one person out of the house without any warning and without any reason.

For that evicted person this is no laughing matter as they have done nothing wrong and were not nominated so for them to have to leave BB so suddenly without any preparation is nothing short of disgraceful and it will be a sad day for this once great programme.

If I were the evicted HM I would absolutely refuse to leave in the normal manner , I would force the security men to come and get me because I would be outraged and feel totally cheated by this bloody stupid supposed twist.

This truly is the day BB died.....!!!!

As I just mentioned, connor got to walk out with half the cash, for no reason, without the audience getting a say in it at all.

This is nothing in comparison. This is just a standard eviction, with the HM with the fewest votes going. The only difference is that they are unaware of who is up.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kefln

As I just mentioned, connor got to walk out with half the cash, for no reason, without the audience getting a say in it at all.

This is nothing in comparison. This is just a standard eviction, with the HM with the fewest votes going. The only difference is that they are unaware of who is up.

Not the same at all, Conor and Luke S competed for the cash with the other housemates looking on.

One walked off with the cash,the other got a free pass to the final. no one lost out as to their place in the house, they had choices.

These 3 don't and have never had a choice and one will walk away with nothing from the show at all without any other housemate being able to do anything about it.
How you can compare these 2 instances is beyond me.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not the same at all, Conor and Luke S competed for the cash with the other housemates looking on.

One walked off with the cash,the other got a free pass to the final. no one lost out as to their place in the house, they had choices.

These 3 don't and have never had a choice and one will walk away with nothing from the show at all without any other housemate being able to do anything about it.
How you can compare these 2 instances is beyond me.

99% of HMs walk away with nothing at all. And most can do nothing about it.

This is a normal eviction week, with full audience participation, lowest total goes.

The only difference here is that the HMs are unaware that they are up. Which is good idea on the surface, as we get to judge them on their personalities, not last ditch attempts to look interesting.

They all signed up for a show that votes people off. So in fairness its not a huge twist .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kefln

99% of HMs walk away with nothing at all. And most can do nothing about it.

This is a normal eviction week, with full audience participation, lowest total goes.

The only difference here is that the HMs are unaware that they are up. Which is good idea on the surface, as we get to judge them on their personalities, not last ditch attempts to look interesting.

They all signed up for a show that votes people off. So in fairness its not a huge twist .

I've answered you once at length and if you still cannot see the difference between this twist and others that this one totally excludes the housemates there is little point in doing so again.

I will try once more though.
Of course most of the housemates walk away with nothing but it usually comes after being nominated by housemates and then voted out by the public.
If BB can just engineer these sort of evictions then there is little point in having a nominations process at all.

[Daffodil]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Of course most of the housemates walk away with nothing but it usually comes after being nominated by housemates and then voted out by the public.
If BB can just engineer these sort of evictions then there is little point in having a nominations process at all.

Very well said.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've answered you once at length and if you still cannot see the difference between this twist and others that this one totally excludes the housemates there is little point in doing so again.

I will try once more though.
Of course most of the housemates walk away with nothing but it usually comes after being nominated by housemates and then voted out by the public.
If BB can just engineer these sort of evictions then there is little point in having a nominations process at all.

Bravo Joey

[Kris]

This twist would have been so much more acceptable to the public if they had some part in it. Ie...the public should have voted for who went in the safe house. Instead these people weren't chosen by the HM or the public. Just not right.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've answered you once at length and if you still cannot see the difference between this twist and others that this one totally excludes the housemates there is little point in doing so again.

I will try once more though.
Of course most of the housemates walk away with nothing but it usually comes after being nominated by housemates and then voted out by the public.
If BB can just engineer these sort of evictions then there is little point in having a nominations process at all.

And Ive gone into detail on why I disagree with you.

The whole point of big brother is giving the audience the chance to vote for their favourites, or against those they dislike, until there is a winner. That is the core concept.

The rules however are a moving goal post, it is even stated in the rules that Big Brother can change the rules at anytime.

The prize at the end is the money, the reward for being the most liked by the public.

Tricking the HMs is nothing new. In fact it is fairly standard.

In previous years the right to nominate, or instant nomiation, have been used as punishments. BB have also put everyone up, which is essentially removing peoples right to vote. They have given the vote to family members, thus removing the power from the HMs. They have used the HMs nomination vts as tools to cause trouble in the house. They have had secret tasks where only one HMs opinion mattered. They have given secret tasks where a HM had to achieve xyz, or be put up whether the others wanted it that way or not. They have had a single HM stand up and nominate two people to be put up, on based on their first impressions. They have had nominees swapped, saved, changed, despite having been nominated by their follow HMs. Not to mention the safe house, where people who have been nominated, and evicted in the eyes if the others, have in fact been given special access to the footage of the house.

This weeks twist is a minor thing. And it is still the audiences choice on who goes. And that is what BB is meant to be about.