[Marsh.]

I don't think sexism is involved in people disliking her in general. That's fair enough.

The highly disproportionate hate she generates by people like the BOTS audience on the other hand definitely is.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Kris

Daley said in the beginning he had a girlfriend and only changed it to he wasn't sure and it was left up in the air when he decided he wanted Hazel. She knew that and even said herself in the begining that Daley was off limits because of having a gf, until she decided she didn't care anymore. She also said on more than one occasion that he was the one who was attached not her so it wasn't her problem. They were absolutely as bad as each other. But for her part, she didn't care who she made uncomfortable being around it, got a kick out of getting him aroused and teasing, walking around in tiny mini skirts with no knickers on and was just evil.

As far as I'm concerned she's getting what she deserves.

Exactly , what did she think was going to happen after announcing to the world she was wearing her white body con dress on eviction night without any knickers, Daley knew she hadn't shaved her daisy so she obviously gave him an extended preview of the whole situation , if you are going to act like that expect criticism.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

Lets face it females only dislike her because she is hot. Its just jealousy, I dont like her nor dislike her. I've personally not seen a male slate her. As for the "homewrecker" name id ludacris. Daley made his own choices, he was in a relationship, Hazel wasn't. its Daleys fault if anyones.

Why is it if a girl dislikes a hot girl it is assumed we are jealous, a lot of girls on this forum are gorgeous what have we got to be jealous of?if you don't agree with what some one does or how they behave maybe just maybe it goes against your personal integrity.

I think as women we celebrate beauty amongst each other rather than despise it, what I don't like personally though is a sexy girl like Hazel making a play for a guy with a potential girlfriend, plus using her sexiness to make him aroused and when he asked her to stop it she just carried on and laughed at him .

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

[kistar]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

What I don't understand though is why didn't she know what she was doing and how provocative she was being would cause all this hatred.She says she has been a model for years and used to the controversy that follows yet just adds to that when she had the perfect opportunity to silence everyone .

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by kistar

Why is it if a girl dislikes a hot girl it is assumed we are jealous, a lot of girls on this forum are gorgeous what have we got to be jealous of?if you don't agree with what some one does or how they behave maybe just maybe it goes against your personal integrity.

I think as women we celebrate beauty amongst each other rather than despise it, what I don't like personally though is a sexy girl like Hazel making a play for a guy with a potential girlfriend, plus using her sexiness to make him aroused and when he asked her to stop it she just carried on and laughed at him .

perfectly said.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The hatred shes getting is disgusting.

Yes shes done wrong with Daley but I think the public and people on the forums are much more bitter and twisted than she is.

I think she should walk and not face that baying mob as we wont be able to hear her interview anyway over the boos and chants of OFF OFF OFF OFF!

It's all part and parcel of going on BB, anyone who takes part knows the score by now, nobody made her behave that way.

However, yes the crowd do go too far, she hasn't murdered anyone and they are like a lynch mob sometimes I'm not a fan, but Emma should take her into the studio for her interview then we can actually hear it, it will be an interesting one.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

What I don't understand though is why didn't she know what she was doing and how provocative she was being would cause all this hatred.She says she has been a model for years and used to the controversy that follows yet just adds to that when she had the perfect opportunity to silence everyone .

But does said flirting warrant such extreme hatred?
She backed off and only when Daley welcomed her in did she start flirting, no excuse for her reciprocating of course, but how on earth does this make her worse than him as though she's an evil witch that cast a spell on him?
He made his own choices, he knew what he was doing.

As confirmed by Katie, he outright lied about his relationship status by pretending they weren't actually an item.

And her behaviour outside of the Daley situation doesn't warrant it either, she's been pretty much in the background.

Nothing anyone says makes sense to me. Just highlights the unfair judgements on a woman who's done the same thing as the bloke (contrary to popular belief we're not all slaves to our erections and can actually engage our brains to make mature decisions if we want to).

Just what sin has she committed to welcome such vitriol?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

But does said flirting warrant such extreme hatred?
She backed off and only when Daley welcomed her in did she start flirting, no excuse for her reciprocating of course, but how on earth does this make her worse than him as though she's an evil witch that cast a spell on him?
He made his own choices, he knew what he was doing.

As confirmed by Katie, he outright lied about his relationship status by pretending they weren't actually an item.

And her behaviour outside of the Daley situation doesn't warrant it either, she's been pretty much in the background.

Nothing anyone says makes sense to me. Just highlights the unfair judgements on a woman who's done the same thing as the bloke (contrary to popular belief we're not all slaves to our erections and can actually engage our brains to make mature decisions if we want to).

Just what sin has she committed to welcome such vitriol?

yes it does. homewrecking liars who violate fellow housemates deserve stick.
shes lucky she wasn't chucked out and has had weeks to try and get some sympathy vote from the public and even that isn't washing

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes it does. homewrecking liars who violate fellow housemates deserve stick.
shes lucky she wasn't chucked out and has had weeks to try and get some sympathy vote from the public and even that isn't washing

So, why may I ask does Daley not receive the same treatment?

On BOTS for example he was interviewed, spoken to and spoken about as though he was a victim of Hazel as opposed to an equally guilty participant in their relationship.

Can you explain the large difference in treatment?

[kistar]

It's not that she has committed a sin as such it is obvious to me though that her behaviour would be seen as controversial, a beautiful very sexy girl on national tv talking about her lack of underwear to a guy with a potential girlfriend , wearing tops without a bra and making a point of giving the same guy long hugs until he got aroused and then when he mentioned it going back and giving him another hug is surely just stupidity beyond all things.

[the truth]

it is sickening an unjust how she wasn't booted with daley....instead shes just wasted away they trying win some sympathy....an opportunity she didn't deserve

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

It's not that she has committed a sin as such it is obvious to me though that her behaviour would be seen as controversial, a beautiful very sexy girl on national tv talking about her lack of underwear to a guy with a potential girlfriend , wearing tops without a bra and making a point of giving the same guy long hugs until he got aroused and then when he mentioned it going back and giving him another hug is surely just stupidity beyond all things.

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too.

so does she

[kistar]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

So, why may I ask does Daley not receive the same treatment?

On BOTS for example he was interviewed, spoken to and spoken about as though he was a victim of Hazel as opposed to an equally guilty participant in their relationship.

Can you explain the large difference in treatment?

If you asked me to comment on Daley I would say he was a 100% t**t who was wishy washy about his relationship with his girlfriend the minute he thought he had a chance with Hazel , he is an idiot, I cannot comment on his anger or violence towards women but I have strong feelings about that whole subject.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

If you asked me to comment on Daley I would say he was a 100% t**t who was wishy washy about his relationship with his girlfriend the minute he thought he had a chance with Hazel , he is an idiot, I cannot comment on his anger or violence towards women but I have strong feelings about that whole subject.

Which is why I have no problem with people like yourself.

It's the general consensus and BOTS crowd that I detest. But then it's too much to ask that they have a single brain cell between them.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Of course. But the large difference in treatment between her and Daley is, as the thread title says, sickening.

And actually offensive to men too. We're not all brainless servants to a gorgeous woman. We have choices too.

No one says you are brainless and in that you act responsibly, you must know guys who go out and act like idiots to girls, have sex with as many as possible tell them what they want to hear, then as soon as they get what they want leave and boast about it all to their mates , in the same way you would no doubt dislike a guy like that I don't like how Hazel was with Daley.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Course it's a fair question, and I'll answer it. I didn't like her on first impressions way before anything with Daley, and nothing has happened to change my opinion, rather her actions have only reinforced my feelings about her. She isn't my most disliked housemate overall, that would be the twins.

You can't stop people disliking her by being so forceful, it feels like your saying I have no right to dislike her and it's all down to the Daley situation, but the situation showed her for the person (in my personal opinion) I believe her to be, and do not like.

Whatever storylines any housemate has in the house will always define them and give a damm good indication of their true personality, their actions are how we viewers judge them, and I am not saying Hazel is evil through and through and has no redeeming features, but I do not like her, and never will.

You see nice things in her and that's fine, but don't imply I am out of order for my preference please.

Ok Kate I accept you dont like her. I was wondering what else about her you didnt like You said you didnt like her from first impressions why was that? Was it because of her VT? Or something she said or did? I know I cant stop people disliking her but for instance I say I dislike Gina cos she is lazy, doesnt do anything around the house, wants to be the centre of attention, was ordering Dexter to carry her case from the safe house, was mad cos some of the housemates felt sorry for Hazel saying that she Gina had had to endure worse situations, has constantly backstabbed Hazel and ok she has said it to her face also but is trying to influence the other housemates also, has blown all hot and cold with Dexter, etc etc. Im backing up all the reasons I dont like Gina. I was just kind of asking you if there were other reasons you didnt like Hazel which was fair. There was no offence intended. Peace

[GiRTh]

According to a thread on DS Daley was on the radio today discussing the incident. Apparently he's only sorry to Katie and Hazel and him knew they were play fighting. Did anyone hear it?

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

According to a thread on DS Daley was on the radio today discussing the incident. Apparently he's only sorry to Katie and Hazel and him knew they were play fighting. Did anyone hear it?

He's certainly getting around isn't he!

I think he's capitalising on the Hazel-hate currently around and earning a few quid in the bargain. Once BB is over it will be "Daley Who? Hazel Who?".......they will be forgotten.

Except for sad places like TiBB, where we'll be arguing about them for a while yet.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

No one says you are brainless and in that you act responsibly, you must know guys who go out and act like idiots to girls, have sex with as many as possible tell them what they want to hear, then as soon as they get what they want leave and boast about it all to their mates , in the same way you would no doubt dislike a guy like that I don't like how Hazel was with Daley.

Of course, there are people out there like that of both sexes.

I just hate the sexism in that when the man is attached, he was too weak to resist the temptress who lured him. When the woman is attached, it's still the same way.