[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

and so were hers

No one's disputing that. But a lot of the hatred for Hazel insinuates she cast a spell on him and he had no control over his urges. Which is crap.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No one's disputing that. But a lot of the hatred for Hazel insinuates she cast a spell on him and he had no control over his urges. Which is crap.

no one said that?

[bez87]

I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Examples?

From what I recall she told him all of the main points of the evening including everything she herself had done.

She told him everything.

She said they had both done wrong.

She wasn't biased at all.

Just the usual TheTruth woman bashing thread again.

Hazel is apparerntly the slag who manipulates men with her vagina yet men are far less to blame for thinking with their cocks lol its utter bull****.

And saying that its time women treated men with respect because this isn't the 1950s? Im sorry but the 1950s were far more male dominated. He is just a clueless forum member and whenever I express this opinion some mod bans me for like a week yet lets him troll the forum every day.

[Northern Monkey]

Daley was a prize dickhead,He f'ked it up for himself cos he could'nt handle his drink.That was'nt Hazels fault.How did she know he was gonna turn into a woman beating nobhead.They were just flirting as usual as far as she was concerned.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Her version was very accurate as I recall.

It was the truth but not the WHOLE truth. As a former cop, Dan will be very aware of the difference!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

irrelevant? they were 2 of his best mates....bizarre question?

It is irrelevant to him, it would be like Emma spending 5 minutes telling Sallie about a conversation Wolfy had with the twins whilst she was in the toilet.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

It is irrelevant to him, it would be like Emma spending 5 minutes telling Sallie about a conversation Wolfy had with the twins whilst she was in the toilet.

no its not youre 100% wrong

[the truth]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Daley was a prize dickhead,He f'ked it up for himself cos he could'nt handle his drink.That was'nt Hazels fault.How did she know he was gonna turn into a woman beating nobhead.They were just flirting as usual as far as she was concerned.

shes been a prize dickhead too....when she violated him she should have been called to the DR immediately....just as a man would have been in that exact situation

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by bez87

I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S

Exactly!

Brilliant post but im afraid the op wont read this or will choose to ignore it.

[bez87]

you know the world is bad, when us lads can go around and sh*g anything what moves and get praise for it and when a woman does it, she is a sl*t, and a man can go and cheat but don't worry it can be justified and boys will be boys, yet a woman does it and she is the scum of the earth. a man has a girlfriend convinces another woman who finds him attractive that he is pretty much single and do what he wants, and she falls for it, she is branded a homewrecker, even that it's the lads fault and if the girl had a boyfriend and this happened the woman would be called a sl*t and can never be trusted again.

Crazy

[CaudleHalbard]

Dan might be angry with BB or indeed the voting public for putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house in the first place.

They were both his friends. I'm sure he will take a considered view.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bez87

I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

She told him everything.

She said they had both done wrong.

She wasn't biased at all.

Just the usual TheTruth woman bashing thread again.

Hazel is apparerntly the slag who manipulates men with her vagina yet men are far less to blame for thinking with their cocks lol its utter bull****.

And saying that its time women treated men with respect because this isn't the 1950s? Im sorry but the 1950s were far more male dominated. He is just a clueless forum member and whenever I express this opinion some mod bans me for like a week yet lets him troll the forum every day.

I can only guess he had his heart broken a long time ago.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Dan might be angry with BB or indeed the voting public for putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house in the first place.

They were both his friends. I'm sure he will take a considered view.

this is another thing, why will this even matter, it doesn't matter whether they were put in there or not this sort of thing should of never happened, Daley should of never been allowed in the big brother house at all, he is unstable, an angressive person and a very controlling person, dan will not take into account about us putting them in there, that has nothing to do with what happened

[kefln]

Originally Posted by bez87

I love the whole once he knows all the details lol, he's a detective once he knows every detail he will see it for what every civilized humna being would see it for.

Daley has a girlfriend he is back with her, god only knows but she was waiting behind the scenes when he had his interview :S

Daley told Hazel that his girlfriend had finished him just before he went into the house so he kept it secret and kept up the presence he was with his girlfriend, and that his girlfriend had said they will talk afterwards. take into consideration that Daley has been known to cheat and lie in the passed before hand.

Hazel did not go near for 2 weeks, Daley and Hazel became friends, Daley flirted first and signaled he liked her first, he then gave his story, she had become close to him being in a house 24/7 with him, it's bound to happen with opposite sex's. they both played along.

Once in the safe house, Daley changed he became very controlling, anyone can see this in 2 conversations he had with her, one where he was telling her what type of woman he liked and how he liked the natural look and really forced this onto Hazel going into the shower, and when he told her how much she should wear before going out. these 2 conversations show me they is a dark side to Daley, Nothing i have seen from Hazley hadn't done anything out of the ordinary a typical socialite girl wouldn't of done.

The night of the situation, Daley Demanded she came in from the garden and go to sleep, he had already been in there for an hour or so and claimed he couldn't sleep, since the night before they shared a bed, Hazel asked if he was coming in her bed, he said no and if she wanted a cuddle she should come over there, they played a little with each other, and in that playfulness she tuck the cover, he became angry over this and Hazel was still in a playful mood, (they had both been drinking) they both didn't know the time, they both didn't know the camera's and the live stream was happening, Daley threatened Hazel a few times with Hazel thinking it was just playful and his way.

THIS IS NOT A WORK PLACE INCIDENT, THIS FACTOR ALONE CANNOT BE USED AT ALL IN THE FACT OF THE SHORTS PULLING. this is 2 people who had been flirting for over a week and had done something the night before, in Hazels eyes this was signifying what she wanted which was probably what they both got the night before, not the greatest thing to do in the situation but if the situation played out then no one would even care, Daley threatened her again, and held her arms down and her throat Hazel did the same with the throat but playfully as she was smiling throughout Daley was very Evil in the eyes and you could tell what he ment by all of this, he threatened to headbutt her and bb stepped.

Thats the whole story, not at any part does Hazel deserve all this hate. the crazy thing is Daley started it all and is the cheat and yet he has non of the hate :S

Well said

[CaudleHalbard]

Dan will now be exposed to the full extent of the Hazel-hate out there.

I wonder what he will make of it? A bit shocked, I imagine.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by the truth

shes been a prize dickhead too....when she violated him she should have been called to the DR immediately....just as a man would have been in that exact situation

Yep,I agree.They should have stopped it there as it was gonna get out of hand with Daley being that pissed.Still him being pissed is'nt an excuse to threaten to nut her.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

I agree its time these women treated men with more respect this isn't the 1950s men have feelings and rights too

I don't know what you are talking about, and to be honest, you have some antiquated paternalistic viewpoint on most topics I feel.
There is no point trying to have a reasoned discussion on gender issues with you.

[kefln]

Once dan gets a look at the footage, he will go crazy.

The ex police detective will have strong opinions about what should be done to a man that threatens women in that way. But he wont be given the opportunity to voice his displeasure. That might dampen the hazel hate narrative on BOTS.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know what you are talking about, and to be honest, you have some antiquated paternalistic viewpoint on most topics I feel.
There is no point trying to have a reasoned discussion on gender issues with you.

Finally people wising up to his posts.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Dan will now be exposed to the full extent of the Hazel-hate out there.

I wonder what he will make of it? A bit shocked, I imagine.

He ought to be shocked that he was so easily deceived, but he might well ignore it for the sake of his (projected) new career.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

no its not youre 100% wrong

Emma has ten minutes to interview people about their time in the house. Not talk about other peoples time in the house about topics that never included them.

Its weird that you think you're right.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by the truth

shes been a prize dickhead too....when she violated him she should have been called to the DR immediately....just as a man would have been in that exact situation

No this is big brother the whole thing is to watch people at there most private times, if this happened the other way around it would of been left exactly the same way, because of the different outcome of which it may of been,

in the middle of the garden infront of everyone diferent story in the main house with everyone there different story, do you really think if it led to sex they would of pulled them in no of course not, other way round if it led to sex would they of pulled them in no, they are allowed to, it's up to bb on what they show, people want sex, people want to see showmances, people want to see crazy stuff it's entertainment. worse things have happened in bb which have been on live shows.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

He ought to be shocked that he was so easily deceived, but he might well ignore it for the sake of his (projected) new career.

Deceived?

Dan isn't gullible or stupid, he was fully aware of the situation in there but still struck up a friendship with her, even explaining to Emma that regardless of her bad points she has many good qualities that maybe don't translate through edited highlights.

I think he should trust his own opinion from living with these people 24/7 for 6 weeks rather than changing his stance based on some badly edited clips.