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View Poll Results: Did Charlie stab Callm in the back?
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Old 30-07-2013, 11:51 AM #26
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Of course she has the right to nominate who she want. Who said she doesnt? But He made a few good points in his 'You've lost a fan' speech. Are you gonna discuss that or continue to state the obvious?
I told you my opinion. I think he did the right thing. She nominated him, because he makes her feel uncomfortable. Is that good enough for you?
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No, but it was sly of her to do it.
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Niamh read this please. When they were talking last night she kept on saying i adore you, I find comfort in you. Etc etc. she always seeks callum out. "I love your hugs and our chats" they have been getting close all week. And she decides to tell callum because they are not as close as other people in the house she nommed him and also he fustrates her. Im sorry but if anyone on this forum thinks sophie/Sam are closer to Charlie than callum then im done. Her decision is very calculated if callum was in 3rd and dexter was in 7th or 8th she would not of nommed callum. I GAURANTEE.
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Yes she did stab him in the back. I'm not a fan of either of them, but I notice Charlie still wants to hug him and hang all over him. And all the stuff she told him that she'd said in the diary room was a complete fabrication... BB needs to play in the full nominations and not just the edited highlights.

What made me laugh most was sleazy Dexter earwigging the whole conversation between Charlie and Callum. He's so awful...
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I sort of love Charlie but she should have told him about these issues over the past 6 weeks.....that business of him finishes her sentences is true but why didn't she tell him about it rather than keep it as an excuse to nominate.....major game playing as she thinks shes picking off the weaker players.....she will gravitate more to dexter and Samson now she knows theyre popular and even gina is being brown nosed a bit
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I told you my opinion. I think he did the right thing. She nominated him, because he makes her feel uncomfortable. Is that good enough for you?
Good enough for me? What are you talking about? Are you gonna discuss the topic or state the obvious?
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Niamh read this please. When they were talking last night she kept on saying i adore you, I find comfort in you. Etc etc. she always seeks callum out. "I love your hugs and our chats" they have been getting close all week. And she decides to tell callum because they are not as close as other people in the house she nommed him and also he fustrates her. Im sorry but if anyone on this forum thinks sophie/Sam are closer to Charlie than callum then im done. Her decision is very calculated if callum was in 3rd and dexter was in 7th or 8th she would not of nommed callum. I GAURANTEE.
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Spot on. Sam said very similar last night. He reckoned she would have nominated dexter if he had been in Callum's position in the lineup. Think Sam sees through her. I hope Callum survives and nominates Charlie next week in a face to face nom ideally.
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She's trying desperately to backtrack, she tries to talk her way out of every situation except he was right they were close and he's right to feel played.
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Good enough for me? What are you talking about? Are you gonna discuss the topic or state the obvious?
No, she did not stab him in the back. She chose him, because he annoys her and makes her feel uneasy. She owes him nothing. And stop picking on me by the way.
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Niamh read this please. When they were talking last night she kept on saying i adore you, I find comfort in you. Etc etc. she always seeks callum out. "I love your hugs and our chats" they have been getting close all week. And she decides to tell callum because they are not as close as other people in the house she nommed him and also he fustrates her. Im sorry but if anyone on this forum thinks sophie/Sam are closer to Charlie than callum then im done. Her decision is very calculated if callum was in 3rd and dexter was in 7th or 8th she would not of nommed callum. I GAURANTEE.
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Yes, because she lets him stroke and massage her, and keeps hugging him. She has been sending mixed messages to him.
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No. She doesn't like Callum - he makes her skin crawl.
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Niamh read this please. When they were talking last night she kept on saying i adore you, I find comfort in you. Etc etc. she always seeks callum out. "I love your hugs and our chats" they have been getting close all week. And she decides to tell callum because they are not as close as other people in the house she nommed him and also he fustrates her. Im sorry but if anyone on this forum thinks sophie/Sam are closer to Charlie than callum then im done. Her decision is very calculated if callum was in 3rd and dexter was in 7th or 8th she would not of nommed callum. I GAURANTEE.
Agreed. I felt sorry for the two of them on LF last night. It felt like the end of something to see them drift apart like they did last night- obviously there was nothing there to start with but the way they played it was so sad. I hope Callum nominates Charlie next week but I think he still thinks he's got a chance.
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No. She doesn't like Callum - he makes her skin crawl.
I doubt that very much, if someone makes your skin crawl you don't keep getting close, cuddling them etc.
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Right give it a rest you 2 or I'm banning both of you, I have already removed a few posts in here.
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don't know if I'd say she stabbed him in the back, she doesn't owe him anything I don't think. I do think she has lead both him and Dexter on but if I were her I think I would have had to nominate Callum too, he's far too intense for me. Is she gameplaying? So what if she is, its a game that is there to be played, its not real life and will be all over very soon
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No, but it was sly of her to do it.
It was and she talks for England trying to justify everything she does, this isn't just one incident either ... her reaction to the 'aggressive' comment, the daley thing, upsetting gina on several occasions... she spews copious amounts of word vomit and flips every situation so that she becomes the injured party.
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4 times.... and then twisted the knife for good measure.
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She knows she stabbed him in the back which is why she started trying to cover her tracks the second she saw it come up saying they only show the bad quips and nothing good. She sucked up while trying to explain herself all the while saying how she adored him. She acted bothered when he wouldn't hug her back...

And then the second he went off to the diary room she twisted the knife by going straight to Dexter to discuss the conversation she had just had with Callum.

Absolute shame any of them think they might have a real friendship with the likes of her.
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oh so i suppose Charlie nominated Callum the 2 weeks before as well due to the poll results that never existed?

That's a fair point actually. She has nommed him without knowing those poll results. I remember at the time thinking though that she was maybe just jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the house as he seemed to be very unpopular and he was just an easy nom to give.

[She nominated Dexter twice at the start too probably until she copped the public would keep saving him. I think she copped that long before a lot of the housemates tbh because she suddenly 'loved' Dex and Gina after they had been saved repeatedly.]

I thought this way because she still always remained very friendly with him so it just seemed like a cop out to be nominating a supposed friend, and felt she just did it because he was maybe an easy target. I wasn't aware of how much she genuinely seems to dislike him.



I do think the public popularity polls have had an effect though. They are now on the final stretch of the gameshow - next week is the quarter-finals so the real players should be upping their game now.
Gina the girl who was up every single week of the show was voted public's most popular and all of a sudden did not receive one single nomination this week.

Even if I'm wrong about her voting being anything to do with lineup, which I could be. I still think she plays him. I've wrote in another thread already about why I feel this way. It's mainly to with her always telling him how much she adores him and their chats when really she seems to actually dislike him a lot. It's one thing to tell him she is not interested romantically which is fair enough, but if she dislikes him so much as a person that she repeatedly nominates him and doesn't want to stay in contact with him outside, then why keep bloody saying things like , "i love you to pieces', and giving him really long close cuddles, and 'i adore our chats'. Just bugs me.
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I doubt that very much, if someone makes your skin crawl you don't keep getting close, cuddling them etc.
Dexter said to Hazel a couple of days ago that Charlie said Callum makes her skin crawl.
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Dexter said to Hazel a couple of days ago that Charlie said Callum makes her skin crawl.
Which just proves she's 2 faced and trying to keep both him and Callum sweet.

She's playing both of them like a fiddle to get herself further in the game.
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