[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Barker

It takes two to tango and if anything hazel was far more in the wrong as she provoked him to no end. I like hazel better than Daley but realistically I can see that Hazel was the one who used and manipulated Daley.

What???? Daley was the one in the relationship, how can he possibly, by any stretch of the imagination be less at fault than Hazel???? He cheated, she didn't. Wow, shocked tbh Raph. Reeks of that double standard and completely sexist thought line of "poor man was taken advantage of by the evil woman".....................even though he was the one who supposed to be drawing lines, not her

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Barker

It takes two to tango and if anything hazel was far more in the wrong as she provoked him to no end. I like hazel better than Daley but realistically I can see that Hazel was the one who used and manipulated Daley.

yeah, like someone on here said, she had his middle leg on remote control, she was a tease thats for sure. Daley had no self control at all

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

yeah, like someone on here said, she had his middle leg on remote control, she was a tease thats for sure. Daley had no self control at all

That's his problem though, It boils my blood how cheating men are excused and the woman vilified because they have a penis and that takes far too much control.........It's an insult to other men who are perfectly capable of not cheating everytime a girl flutters their eye lashes

[lime]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's his problem though, It boils my blood how cheating men are excused and the woman vilified because they have a penis and that takes far too much control.........It's an insult to other men who are perfectly capable of not cheating everytime a girl flutters their eye lashes

Well said Niamh

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's his problem though, It boils my blood how cheating men are excused and the woman vilified because they have a penis and that takes far too much control.........It's an insult to other men who are perfectly capable of not cheating everytime a girl flutters their eye lashes

Yeah, I understand what you are saying, some guys do have self control thankfully, but a lot don't. I'm glad I'm not a man.

[sampvt]

For those of you that don't know or are maybe a little confused or blinded by the constant BS we are fed, BB is a REALITY SHOW, which by definition happens to provide entertainment. If it were all about entertainment why don't we have clowns and comedians in there acting or hamming it up all day.

The mere fact that some of us get enjoyment out of watching arguments and fights, it does not mean that the most entertaining (dick head) should win the show. Sadly some of us seem to think that baying =for blood and guts should be applauded and normal quiet people should be hung drawn and quartered.

The ethos of the show was designed and built around the social and interactive skills and follies of a number of people locked in a house and wound up by tasks and their own inability to get on with each other due to the producers skills in picking deliberately confrontational and slightly off the wall individuals for our ENTERTAINMENT.

These days they no longer go for the slightly cookie, they deliberately pick liars, cheats, the mentally unstable wannabees and the just plain nasty twots, which inevitably leads to conflict. Personally the ENTERTAINMENT these individuals provide is hard to watch and the fun has gone out of the show. Long gone are the days when the tasks were funny, now they have to be disgusting and gut wrenching. Long gone are the romances and bromances, they have been replaced by filth and debauchery which ruin lives. long gone are the days when winners are chosen because of their interesting and funny quality and are being replaced by scammers and savvy game players.

I for one don't buy into voting for someone that would sell his or her own mother or body for hard cash. But there again, I was brought up not dragged up and was reared to respect my elders and avoid profanity when ever possible. I seem to be in the minority sometimes but I am proud of who I am and what I represent.

[sampvt]

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[MrWong]

So if you vote Gina/Dexter it means you've been dragged up?

Okay then.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by sampvt

, BB is a REALITY SHOW

I'd say USED to be a reality show, with very earnest discussions by psychologists etc. It stopped being reality a few years back, as soon as we started getting "BB-savvy" contestants who just play to the cameras constantly.

Now it's just light entertainment with everything dumbed down - BOTS being a good example of the thinking behind it.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

Yeah, I understand what you are saying, some guys do have self control thankfully, but a lot don't. I'm glad I'm not a man.

Well I am a man and have been married for over 40yrs and never cheated. Sadly some mens sex drive is a lot more venerable than mine and certain women recognise this as some kind of game.

If there is anyone out there that doesn't think that Hazel led Daley on regardless of consequences and had really true feelings for him then please message me, I will send you the link for specsavers or I may organise a whip round for a white stick and a big fluffy dog for you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Well I am a man and have been married for over 40yrs and never cheated. Sadly some mens sex drive is a lot more venerable than mine and certain women recognise this as some kind of game.

If there is anyone out there that doesn't think that Hazel led Daley on regardless of consequences and had really true feelings for him then please message me, I will send you the link for specsavers or I may organise a whip round for a white stick and a big fluffy dog for you.

Wow, blaming the woman and excusing Daley cos he might have a high sex drive?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So if you vote Gina/Dexter it means you've been dragged up?

Okay then.

Wongie you have been good for the best part of the series, don't blot your copy book now. The answer is in the question so try not to play smart and rubbish my post. I have the right to offer opinions, you however don't have the right to rubbish them devoid of evidence that they are wrong.

[smeagol]

each show is different.
this show there is 2 bores sam an sophie a couple of ego types a weirdo and some unfunny fatboys then hazel n charlie

on this occasion the winner should be the one who is most entertaining. as the bores dont deserve it and arn't nice enough to make up for there dullness.

any other bb hopefully someone nice wins ideally someone whos nice and entertaining they are the best winners.
this bb calls for a different type of winner

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wongie you have been good for the best part of the series, don't blot your copy book now. The answer is in the question so try not to play smart and rubbish my post. I have the right to offer opinions, you however don't have the right to rubbish them devoid of evidence that they are wrong.

You always offer lame opinions on the fans though

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=231482

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

You always offer lame opinions on the fans though

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=231482

I never offer lame opinions about fans or fellow posters, I offer generalisations that can be attributed to real life and real people, it is you that tries to make my posts all about fellow posters to get a rise out of me. A general comment is never pointed in one direction, it is offered to prove a point.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sampvt

For those of you that don't know or are maybe a little confused or blinded by the constant BS we are fed, BB is a REALITY SHOW, which by definition happens to provide entertainment. If it were all about entertainment why don't we have clowns and comedians in there acting or hamming it up all day.

The mere fact that some of us get enjoyment out of watching arguments and fights, it does not mean that the most entertaining (dick head) should win the show. Sadly some of us seem to think that baying =for blood and guts should be applauded and normal quiet people should be hung drawn and quartered.

The ethos of the show was designed and built around the social and interactive skills and follies of a number of people locked in a house and wound up by tasks and their own inability to get on with each other due to the producers skills in picking deliberately confrontational and slightly off the wall individuals for our ENTERTAINMENT.

These days they no longer go for the slightly cookie, they deliberately pick liars, cheats, the mentally unstable wannabees and the just plain nasty twots, which inevitably leads to conflict. Personally the ENTERTAINMENT these individuals provide is hard to watch and the fun has gone out of the show. Long gone are the days when the tasks were funny, now they have to be disgusting and gut wrenching. Long gone are the romances and bromances, they have been replaced by filth and debauchery which ruin lives. long gone are the days when winners are chosen because of their interesting and funny quality and are being replaced by scammers and savvy game players.

I for one don't buy into voting for someone that would sell his or her own mother or body for hard cash. But there again, I was brought up not dragged up and was reared to respect my elders and avoid profanity when ever possible. I seem to be in the minority sometimes but I am proud of who I am and what I represent.

Yes Sam,some people find bullfighting,fox hunting etc entertaining,some of us dont (you know what I mean)

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Barker

It takes two to tango and if anything hazel was far more in the wrong as she provoked him to no end. I like hazel better than Daley but realistically I can see that Hazel was the one who used and manipulated Daley.

If Daley had had self control it would never have happened in the 1st place.

[Ramsay]

It's actually possible to be nice and bring entertainment to show
Adam last year is an example..he didnt really cause much drama but he was a cool dude,nice lad and brought something to the show..i would of been happy if he won
Sam literally has done NOTHING

Originally Posted by sampvt

Does that teach our younger generation anything at all or are you ok with it in the name of entertainment.

So you want to teach the ''younger generation'' that if they do nothing at all they will get money handed to them?
You must understand where we are coming from when we say we dont want sam to win surely?

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

yeah, like someone on here said, she had his middle leg on remote control, she was a tease thats for sure. Daley had no self control at all

Well that's his PROBLEM not her RESPONSIBILITY.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I never offer lame opinions about fans or fellow posters, I offer generalisations that can be attributed to real life and real people, it is you that tries to make my posts all about fellow posters to get a rise out of me. A general comment is never pointed in one direction, it is offered to prove a point.

Oh come on. You know you were. You do it all the time.

In answer to your original post. BB hasn't been the way you describe for a good few years. It's not ideal but if you like the show (as I do) then you have to move with the times.

[MatthewS]

This whole thing is just a rant about how someones favourite housemate is the best and most worthy to win, while calling out all the other housemates and flaunting their negative traits. And when anyone disagrees, they're automatically wrong apparently.

Every one has a favourite housemate, and everyone could make a similar thread if they wanted to. Can't we just stick to discussing the events and actions in the house instead of trying to persuade people with obvious campaign like threads and then labeling people without the same viewpoint as wrong?

[hijaxers]

Or we could say You are all a bunch of s***ebags - throw the money in the room and let em fight for it