[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Dexter should be congratulated for his game play and fan's should be grateful to Dexter for making Sam relevant.

He's good, isn't he?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because Dexter and Sophie respect him and are never rude like he is.

Yes they are, they were bitching about him and Sam has demonstrated how rude Dexter is by not acknowledging him or thanking him. There is a lot about Dexters manners that leave a lot to be desired....

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Yes they are, they were bitching about him and Sam has demonstrated how rude Dexter is by not acknowledging him or thanking him. There is a lot about Dexters manners that leave a lot to be desired....

Sam is also very rude to Dexter all the time. It's uncalled for.

[Jack_]

Well I've certainly not just started hating him, I've made my thoughts clear on him all series, especially so around the Dan eviction.

Absolutely no way I've just started hating him, that's ludicrous.

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I can understand that Gillian,I think you should take a trip on HMS Samuel,you'll be welcome

Hee hee! It is making me support him, little by little

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

You may be the only one. It's no coincidence that whenever someone dislikes Dexter his fans on here decide to make 10000 negative, and hateful threads about them. Some of the Dexter fans on here have made me root for Sam more and excited for Dexter's downfall. Dexter's fans could be his undoing.

As a fan of Dexter i'm not one of those fans but yes you're right, it's obvious from a mile away.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sam is also very rude to Dexter all the time. It's uncalled for.

Vanessa you jump on other hms for doing wrong but excuse everything Dexter does. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to follow him blindly you know

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well I've certainly not just started hating him, I've made my thoughts clear on him all series, especially so around the Dan eviction.

Absolutely no way I've just started hating him, that's ludicrous.

I don't hate him either, but i find him very rude. I used to love him in week one, but i went off him after that.

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well I've certainly not just started hating him, I've made my thoughts clear on him all series, especially so around the Dan eviction.

Absolutely no way I've just started hating him, that's ludicrous.

It's more about the level of hate directed at him over the last few days. Not from you I might add.

[DanaC]

@ vanessa: I agree, Dex was the victim of bullying from day one...right up until the safe house. At which point there was a power shift. Because Dex was the victim of bullying by the house, it makes it harder to see that that changed. But it did change when Dex returned in a position of gretaer power and joined in the bullying of the next house's next victim (Callum). He didn't start the bullying of Callum, that was Dan and Jackie. But he absolutely embraced it and maintained it, using it as a stepping board into greater popularity.

Callum was an excellent choice of target for Dex. He was already unpopular and so there was greater social capitol, within the house, in being his enemy than in being either his friend or a disinterested party. But that wasn't the only thing that made him a good choice of target: Callum was clearly smitten with Charlie and also very clearly not adept at navigating social situations. It was clear to anybody watching from a distance (which Dex and Gina were) that Callum had more potential than the others for 'snapping' under pressure, and his desire for Charlie provided the perfect mechanism to exploit to that end.

Dex has needled and needled in quiet, under the radar ways, so any response from Callum read as unwarranted escalation.

Fair play to him (as the Hms might say ;p). It's a game, and he played it much better than Callum did.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Gillian-73

Hee hee! It is making me support him, little by little

As a fan of Dexter i'm not one of those fans but yes you're right, it's obvious from a mile away.

Vanessa you jump on other hms for doing wrong but excuse everything Dexter does. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to follow him blindly you know

It try to be objective, but Dexter has been bullied in there from day one and it's still going on. They laugh at him and ridicule him at every opportunity. That is why i feel very protective fo him.

[Kazanne]

Sams being aggressive by waving his finger

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DanaC

@ vanessa: I agree, Dex was the victim of bullying from day one...right up until the safe house. At which point there was a power shift. Because Dex was the victim of bullying by the house, it makes it harder to see that that changed. But it did change when Dex returned in a position of gretaer power and joined in the bullying of the next house's next victim (Callum). He didn't start the bullying of Callum, that was Dan and Jackie. But he absolutely embraced it and maintained it, using it as a stepping board into greater popularity.

Callum was an excellent choice of target for Dex. He was already unpopular and so there was greater social capitol, within the house, in being his enemy than in being either his friend or a disinterested party. But that wasn't the only thing that made him a good choice of target: Callum was clearly smitten with Charlie and also very clearly not adept at navigating social situations. It was clear to anybody watching from a distance (which Dex and Gina were) that Callum had more potential than the others for 'snapping' under pressure, and his desire for Charlie provided the perfect mechanism to exploit to that end.

Dex has needled and needled in quiet, under the radar ways, so any response from Callum read as unwarranted escalation.

Fair play to him (as the Hms might say ;p). It's a game, and he played it much better than Callum did.

Callum is still bad mouthing Dexter now he's out. Dexter will need a restraining order with him.

[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sam is also very rude to Dexter all the time. It's uncalled for.

Sam is probably the most obnoxious person left on there. He's got no empathy and he has no tolerance for anyone's opinion save his own. He's as dull as dishwater and if he wins I'll eat hay with a donkey.

[DanaC]

Sorry, forgot to add that it also provided Dex with a nice 'rivalry' to keep himself in the public eye.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Callum is still bad mouthing Dexter now he's out. Dexter will need a restraining order with him.

And Dan was still badmouthing Callum when he came out. And Wolfy was still badmouthing Dan. Because BOTS encourages and deliberately elicits those responses from ex-housemates. It's all part of the wrapping.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods

Sam is probably the most obnoxious person left on there. He's got no empathy and he has no tolerance for anyone's opinion save his own. He's as dull as dishwater and if he wins I'll eat hay with a donkey.

I think they just don't understand each other at all.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sam is also very rude to Dexter all the time. It's uncalled for.

So it's uncalled for directed at Dexter but ok directed from Dexter?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DanaC

And Dan was still badmouthing Callum when he came out. And Wolfy was still badmouthing Dan. Because BOTS encourages and deliberately elicits those responses from ex-housemates. It's all part of the wrapping.

Callum said Dexter has bullied him for 7 weeks. What about when Callum and Dexter were best friends in the first two weeks?

[DanaC]

They were never 'best friends'. They cautiously got on.

[joeysteele]

After just watching Rylan's show this morning and getting a bit of the Dexter/Sam niggle,I applaud Sam for pulling Dexter up again and I can see Dexter hanging himself over Sam, Sam will not be called a liar and Dexter has picked the wrong person to get at now.

Dexter needs to relay what people actually say to him, the actual way they said it and not re-invent it or add words to suit himself at the time as to what they have said.

There is a very unpleasant side to Dexter coming out even more now than has already been surfacing over the last 2 weeks but by getting at Sam, I feel and also hope, he will pay a very heavy price for doing so.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DanaC

They were never 'best friends'. They cautiously got on.

They were close. I liked their friendship a lot back then.

[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think they just don't understand each other at all.

Maybe, I've just not got much time for Sam. He's not a bad lad as such but he's not as nice as what people think. My main gripe is that he's being championed as a winner when he has literally done nothing. This is the only time he's provoked any thought cause all the cuddly wuddly people now want him to win 'cause he's nice'. Some people wouldn't say **** if they had a mouthful of it. Grey people are the worst.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They were close. I liked their friendship a lot back then.

They never seemed 'close' to me. They were thrown together by unpopularity within the house.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by anniek76

So it's uncalled for directed at Dexter but ok directed from Dexter?

I didn't say that. I think they both should be nicer to each other.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DanaC

They never seemed 'close' to me. They were thrown together by unpopularity within the house.

They were friends, until Callum nominated his "friend" face to face.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

After just watching Rylan's show this morning and getting a bit of the Dexter/Sam niggle,I applaud Sam for pulling Dexter up again and I can see Dexter hanging himself over Sam, Sam will not be called a liar and Dexter has picked the wrong person to get at now.

Dexter needs to relay what people actually say to him, the actual way they said it and not re-invent it or add words to suit himself at the time as to what they have said.

There is a very unpleasant side to Dexter coming out even more now than has laready been surfacing over the last 2 weeks but by getting at Sam, I feel and also hope, he will pay a very heavy price for doing so.

He is a media *****, always spinning things to get ultimate exposure, this is his job.
Let's hope he get's shot down in flames for targeting the wrong person, sam is not the weakest link in this chain.