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Old 04-08-2013, 09:13 PM #1
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say sorry for what? for speaking the truth and saying nice things

no way
He twisted words.... "dont feel you have to speak to me" and "don't speak to me" have very different connotations.... Dexter spun what Sam said to justify his own means....so in effect he did lie. Other than that, I agree he didn't say an awful lot wrong other than the no friends bit but Gina put Dex straight on that anyway.

Out of them all Gina came out best...
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He twisted words.... "dont feel you have to speak to me" and "don't speak to me" have very different connotations.... Dexter spun what Sam said to justify his own means....so in effect he did lie. Other than that, I agree he didn't say an awful lot wrong other than the no friends bit but Gina put Dex straight on that anyway.

Out of them all Gina came out best...
He just didn't remember the exact words. That's all.
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He just didn't remember the exact words. That's all.
But you can see that they way he told it has a very different meaning....it's like saying Callum couldn't remember the exact words with the whole "bend you over and stick it in you" conversation, it's relaying something so you get the upper hand....
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But you can see that they way he told it has a very different meaning....it's like saying Callum couldn't remember the exact words with the whole "bend you over and stick it in you" conversation, it's relaying something so you get the upper hand....
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But you can see that they way he told it has a very different meaning....it's like saying Callum couldn't remember the exact words with the whole "bend you over and stick it in you" conversation, it's relaying something so you get the upper hand....
No, he meant it as Sam told him not to bother to talk to him. That's why he was upset by it.
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He just didn't remember the exact words. That's all.
Put this into context please. Sam was viewing Dexter ctitcising him, in fact being very unpleasant.
Sam simply came out and put him right.
There was a world of difference between what Sam recalled and what Dexter claimed he said.
Sam said Don't feel, which is polite.
Dexter said that Sam had rudely said Don't speak to me just because Callum has gone.

Quite nasty.
Doesn't matter because fortunately the housemates are not going to vote. There talk was all about pointing to Sam to make sure they all nominated him.
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Put this into context please. Sam was viewing Dexter ctitcising him, in fact being very unpleasant.
Sam simply came out and put him right.
There was a world of difference between what Sam recalled and what Dexter claimed he said.
Sam said Don't feel, which is polite.
Dexter said that Sam had rudely said Don't speak to me just because Callum has gone.

Quite nasty.
Doesn't matter because fortunately the housemates are not going to vote. There talk was all about pointing to Sam to make sure they all nominated him.
Dexter never lies about these things. Him and Sam have always been open and honest with each other. They know where they stand.
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He just didn't remember the exact words. That's all.
You know Dexter by know, he's sly.

He knew what he was doing.
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You know Dexter by know, he's sly.

He knew what he was doing.
He just didn't remember the exact words. No big deal. Him and Sam have sorted it out like adults. That's good enough for me.
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He just didn't remember the exact words. No big deal. Him and Sam have sorted it out like adults. That's good enough for me.
He did though, that's my point.

He deliberately twisted it.
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He did though, that's my point.

He deliberately twisted it.
No, he did not. He knows cameras record every word. If he lied he knows he'd be caught out.
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No, he did not. He knows cameras record every word. If he lied he knows he'd be caught out.
They don't get replayed back to the house though, so him lying won't affect him.
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No, he did not. He knows cameras record every word. If he lied he knows he'd be caught out.
WHAT !!!!!!!!!! Dexter tells so many lies its easier to decipher how often he tells the truth, which is about twice a day. He is such a prolific purveyor of the art of lying, he actually begins to believe his own lies as fact not fiction. He is little more than a little kid that was hated at school and hasn't yet grown up.

After watching him last night defend his argument with sam, a part of me began to feel sorry for him. I honestly think he needs help and a real friend to console him. Nobody should be allowed to go through life sticking pins in their own eyes and maligning themselves that frequently, he needs help.
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He just didn't remember the exact words. No big deal. Him and Sam have sorted it out like adults. That's good enough for me.

If he couldn't remember the right words (which he only openly admitted to when Sam confronted him and said that's not what I said) then why did he bitch about it in the first place?

Dexter ****ed up and he knows it.

He failed to remember that when he disappeared with Gina they had access to HM's conversations. It's secret and lies, so it was clearly obvious that something fishy was going on. But he's so far up his own arse and thinks he's the only one that deserves to be in the final that he's starting to **** up big time!

The look on his face and his body language absolutely without doubt confirmed he knew he had messed up and messed up big and his conversation with Sam in trying to explain to him why he said it was more for damage control then actually apologising for talking a load of bollocks about someone who wasn't there to defend himself!

Oh and btw, if Dexter is one the most honest and straight forward people in the house then why did he not speak to Sam about how he felt before? Why wait until he was "missing" from the house before he started bitching about him and why he needs to go?
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If he couldn't remember the right words (which he only openly admitted to when Sam confronted him and said that's not what I said) then why did he bitch about it in the first place?

Dexter ****ed up and he knows it.

He failed to remember that when he disappeared with Gina they had access to HM's conversations. It's secret and lies, so it was clearly obvious that something fishy was going on. But he's so far up his own arse and thinks he's the only one that deserves to be in the final that he's starting to **** up big time!

The look on his face and his body language absolutely without doubt confirmed he knew he had messed up and messed up big and his conversation with Sam in trying to explain to him why he said it was more for damage control then actually apologising for talking a load of bollocks about someone who wasn't there to defend himself!

Oh and btw, if Dexter is one the most honest and straight forward people in the house then why did he not speak to Sam about how he felt before? Why wait until he was "missing" from the house before he started bitching about him and why he needs to go?


Excellent points and very well made. I agree entirely with you as to your whole post above.
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If he couldn't remember the right words (which he only openly admitted to when Sam confronted him and said that's not what I said) then why did he bitch about it in the first place?

Dexter ****ed up and he knows it.

He failed to remember that when he disappeared with Gina they had access to HM's conversations. It's secret and lies, so it was clearly obvious that something fishy was going on. But he's so far up his own arse and thinks he's the only one that deserves to be in the final that he's starting to **** up big time!

The look on his face and his body language absolutely without doubt confirmed he knew he had messed up and messed up big and his conversation with Sam in trying to explain to him why he said it was more for damage control then actually apologising for talking a load of bollocks about someone who wasn't there to defend himself!

Oh and btw, if Dexter is one the most honest and straight forward people in the house then why did he not speak to Sam about how he felt before? Why wait until he was "missing" from the house before he started bitching about him and why he needs to go?
They all thought Sam was gone were all shocked.
Because Callum was always on the way. But now they can talk and sort out any issue they have with each other.
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They all thought Sam was gone were all shocked.
Because Callum was always on the way. But now they can talk and sort out any issue they have with each other.

Your post makes no sense to me what-so-ever!

Callum has nothing to do with this. He wasn't even in the house, yet he's still getting blamed every time Dexter ****s up.

Take your blinkers off honey!
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He twisted words.... "dont feel you have to speak to me" and "don't speak to me" have very different connotations.... Dexter spun what Sam said to justify his own means....so in effect he did lie. Other than that, I agree he didn't say an awful lot wrong other than the no friends bit but Gina put Dex straight on that anyway.

Out of them all Gina came out best...
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