[halfacrown]

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seems rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

The majority of people criticizing him are most certainly not focusing on neutral things such as calling him dull, boring and what not. That I have no problem with. (read that twice) to make sure it sinks in.

I am not defining him in any way. I am pointing a finger at the comments that are aimed at him.

Your entire post is skirting around the issues that I am raising. Please, focus on the points I raise if you are going to comment.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

The majority of people criticizing him are most certainly not focusing on neutral things such as calling him dull, boring and what not. That I have no problem with. (read that twice) to make sure it sinks in.

I am not defining him in any way. I am pointing a finger at the comments that are aimed at him.

Your entire post is skirting around the issues that I am raising. Please, focus on the points I raise if you are going to comment.

Oh I don't think I'm skirting around the issue and I'm quite clear on your post and reading it more than once won't change that!

You are contradicting yourself because at the end you say 'If you cannot come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections, then you have lost the argument before you have even started.' Yet you make no mention of any of Sam's qualities and only talk about his hearing issue!

The rules of these boards are there for all to see and I'm sure the mods are aware of any infringements.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

There is a certain minority on here that are furious that he had a go at Dexter,simple as , and they will use any means to try and diss him,even unfortunately his health as a partial deaf person myself,it is hard to be around a babbling crowd sometimes its best to keep out of conversations just incase I say the wrong thing and it ends up embarrassing,so people need to know this may be due to him being a bit quiet,as for him being boring,I am struggling to find what the others have done that is so 'exciting' so ,Sam is imo as alert as the others its just he is not bitching and smarming around so doesn't get the highlights.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There is a certain minority on here that are furious that he had a go at Dexter,simple as , and they will use any means to try and diss him,even unfortunately his health as a partial deaf person myself,it is hard to be around a babbling crowd sometimes its best to keep out of conversations just incase I say the wrong thing and it ends up embarrassing,so people need to know this may be due to him being a bit quiet,as for him being boring,I am struggling to find what the others have done that is so 'exciting' so ,Sam is imo as alert as the others its just he is not bitching and smarming around so doesn't get the highlights.

The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

He's 23,I'm sure as he gets older he will learn how to handle what comes before him.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

I said this the other day to him. Most people dislike Sam because he is dull, not because he is hard of hearing.